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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Probably. You also should have not been parked in a no parking zone. That tends to be frowned upon at airports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Do we have the number of people shot that fully comply with police instructions?
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    which instruction did Breonna Taylor not comply with

    or Botham Jean
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Amash has surprised me with his Lincoln Project-lite act of primarily calling out the right side of the spectrum lately. He's always been essentially opposite of me on most issues, but I did respect him until recently.

    Fortunately his combination of Laissez-faire economics and a social policy of do whatever makes you feel good, while being opposed to a social safety net, occupies an irrelevant corner of the ideological map today.
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    I guess you missed where her boyfriend shot first by eyewitness accounts but I don’t expect you to care about those facts.


    Either way, I never implied the number would be zero. We have this poisonous narrative that police are the problem when the overwhelming majority of tragic deaths immediately follow the suspect not complying with police.

    Do you disagree with that statement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Amash has surprised me with his Lincoln Project-lite act of primarily calling out the right side of the spectrum lately. He's always been essentially opposite of me on most issues, but I did respect him until recently.

    Fortunately his combination of Laissez-faire economics and a social policy of do whatever makes you feel good, while being opposed to a social safety net, occupies an irrelevant corner of the ideological map today.
    Follow the money with Amash.

    Influence operations happening all over the country.

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    Amash is a good principled guy but he did get a minor case of TDS which has altered his strategy of being effective

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    which instruction did Breonna Taylor not comply with

    or Botham Jean
    It's unfortunate that wolf had already been cried over ridiculous cases like Brown and Floyd when the Breanna Taylor shooting occurred. Her case is one that demonstrates a clear need for a change in policing policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    It's unfortunate that wolf had already been cried over ridiculous cases like Brown and Floyd when the Breanna Taylor shooting occurred. Her case is one that demonstrates a clear need for a change in policing policy.
    Actual senators like Rand Paul tried to address Taylor with meaningful legislation.

    But the terrorist group still assaulted him anyway while screaming "say her name"

    The useful idiots cheered on the terrorist group

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I guess you missed where her boyfriend shot first by eyewitness accounts but I don’t expect you to care about those facts.


    Either way, I never implied the number would be zero. We have this poisonous narrative that police are the problem when the overwhelming majority of tragic deaths immediately follow the suspect not complying with police.

    Do you disagree with that statement?
    Oh I didn't realize your question was a rhetorical question. My bad.

    I would say there is an enormous difference in the details of these high profile cases. I would not lump them all together. What happened to George Floyd was very different from what happened to that kid in Ferguson, Missouri.

    We've had a similar discussion in other threads where sadly there was not a meeting of the minds. But I'll briefly restate what I think the data show. First the data do not show that police are gunning down blacks disproportionately. Second they do show lots of other types of differential treatment, for example likelihood of being tazed or cuffed or talked to in a disrespectful way. None of this should be a surprise. Police reflect society. They are no better or worse than society as far as racism goes. There are police who are racist and there are police who aren't. With a wide spectrum of how the racism gets expressed. Just like in society. I think what makes police a bit different is they are public employees. With that comes some scrutiny that doesn't apply to professions in the private sector.
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    The Treasury Department’s statement on Thursday suggests that Manafort did ultimately transfer Trump campaign polling data to Russian intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Stop convincing women it’s a badge of honor to raise kids on your own.

    Make it more difficult for men to walk away from their children.

    Stop making scum bags like George Floyd and Michael brown martyrs.

    This ain’t hard.
    are we to assume there were no children involved in your recent domestic " transition" ?
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    Fortunately that relationship was DOA early enough where no children were involved.

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    then you never attended PTA or parent teacher conferences or arranged for day care or had to be at work after staying up until 3 AM dealing with a sick child, called and had to leave work because your child became sick at school or maternity leave ?
    Or met teachers or was asked to participate in school activities?

    All the same you like sturg have a lot of opinions on schools and raising children


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    I’d love to understand the relevance of what you just wrote to anything that was said in this thread.

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    shot in the dark, but pretty sure Michael Brown and George Floyd and their families / friends / followers would just as soon they not be viewed as martyrs.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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