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Thread: GDT 6/23: THE WRIGHT STUFF

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaitingFor2017 View Post
    Shane Greene may be DFA worthy soon.
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    I was so excited when we drafted Kyle Wright, I couldn’t believe he fell to us at 5. He’s either a bust or needs to get a change of scenery now. His control just isn’t good.

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    Sucks that Fried was hurt. We had a real shot to take 3 of 4 if he would have started

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I was so excited when we drafted Kyle Wright, I couldn’t believe he fell to us at 5. He’s either a bust or needs to get a change of scenery now. His control just isn’t good.
    He's a complete bust. Not even spider tack would help him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Sucks that Fried was hurt. We had a real shot to take 3 of 4 if he would have started
    Didn't see a pitch - I refuse to watch when he's on the mound.

    When he's been no more successful in Gwinnett than he has, you're shooting yourself in the foot by calling him up in a situation like yesterday. Coming off of a couple days where the majority of the pen was rested, not having yesterday be a bullpen game just seems utterly stupid.

    Luke Jackson for Opener!!! That way you just keep one of Muller or Wilson on the roster and ready to follow Luke every 5th day. (Still think Strider could fit as an Opener during the second half as well.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Didn't see a pitch - I refuse to watch when he's on the mound.

    When he's been no more successful in Gwinnett than he has, you're shooting yourself in the foot by calling him up in a situation like yesterday. Coming off of a couple days where the majority of the pen was rested, not having yesterday be a bullpen game just seems utterly stupid.

    Luke Jackson for Opener!!! That way you just keep one of Muller or Wilson on the roster and ready to follow Luke every 5th day. (Still think Strider could fit as an Opener during the second half as well.)
    Last night would've been a perfect bullpen game. We have guys that aren't getting enough work bc we keep so many pitchers. This team can't think outside the box at all... an opener or bullpen game? Awww hell naw, gotta run these garbage starters up

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Last night would've been a perfect bullpen game. We have guys that aren't getting enough work bc we keep so many pitchers. This team can't think outside the box at all... an opener or bullpen game? Awww hell naw, gotta run these garbage starters up
    I think it’s more that they want these young starters to develop by getting them ML action. Problem is, we can’t really be affording these experiments right now.

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    Does Wright have any value left? I know he's lost a ton, but surely someone would wanna take a chance.

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    Also tough to do two bullpen games in a row. We just don't have a ton of great options right now.

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    I'm assuming my other least favorite, Wilson tonight. He threw 65 pitches on Sunday, so he should be good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Does Wright have any value left? I know he's lost a ton, but surely someone would wanna take a chance.
    Dude has zero value. Of course not every front office will agree with the value of a given player but Fangraphs last updated him with a 40+ FV. I'm assuming that was given to him sometime in the past year as he exceeded prospect eligibility last year. That has a trade value of like 5 million and I think even that's generous. Long way of saying he would be a filler piece to any trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Dude has zero value. Of course not every front office will agree with the value of a given player but Fangraphs last updated him with a 40+ FV. I'm assuming that was given to him sometime in the past year as he exceeded prospect eligibility last year. That has a trade value of like 5 million and I think even that's generous. Long way of saying he would be a filler piece to any trade.
    Then I'd just assume hold him. Maybe see if he can become a reliever. I can't remember enscheff's breakdown exactly, but I think he had some plus pitches.

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    Trading Wright also has the added return of...never having him pitch for us again.

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    I do wonder if some of our pitching struggles is due to not having TDA. Contreras has been pretty brutal in pitch framing according to Fangraphs.
    Last edited by Carp; 06-24-2021 at 11:40 AM.

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    Wright's FA is still very flat (only 6.5" of rise) and his SI is still by far his best fastball. So why did he throw 47 FAs and only 21 SIs last night?

    Probably because the CU is better than his SL, and a CU pairs better with a FA than with the SI.

    So you have Wright trying to throw 5 pitches, and can't control any of them. The FA is poor, so it's hard for him to be a FA/CU guy, but the SL isn't good so it's hard for him to be a SI/SL guy. He was getting almost 2400 RPM on the FA last night, which is plenty to generate rise, so that tells me he has horrid spin efficiency. The 2600+ RPM he gets on the CU is also plenty good.

    Wright is a guy with raw parts and needs expert pitch crafting to work with him. He probably can't continue to throw 5 pitches that he can't control/execute. The concerning part is there has been almost zero improvement in any part of his game since the day he was drafted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Wright's FA is still very flat (only 6.5" of rise) and his SI is still by far his best fastball. So why did he throw 47 FAs and only 21 SIs last night?

    Probably because the CU is better than his SL, and a CU pairs better with a FA than with the SI.

    So you have Wright trying to throw 5 pitches, and can't control any of them. The FA is poor, so it's hard for him to be a FA/CU guy, but the SL isn't good so it's hard for him to be a SI/SL guy. He was getting almost 2400 RPM on the FA last night, which is plenty to generate rise, so that tells me he has horrid spin efficiency. The 2600+ RPM he gets on the CU is also plenty good.

    Wright is a guy with raw parts and needs expert pitch crafting to work with him. He probably can't continue to throw 5 pitches that he can't control/execute.
    Anyone know what this analytic firm we hired this season is doing for us? We seem to be getting dumber

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    Why just not DFA him and quit the agonizing. At least it would free up a 40 man roster spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Wright's FA is still very flat (only 6.5" of rise) and his SI is still by far his best fastball. So why did he throw 47 FAs and only 21 SIs last night?

    Probably because the CU is better than his SL, and a CU pairs better with a FA than with the SI.

    So you have Wright trying to throw 5 pitches, and can't control any of them. The FA is poor, so it's hard for him to be a FA/CU guy, but the SL isn't good so it's hard for him to be a SI/SL guy. He was getting almost 2400 RPM on the FA last night, which is plenty to generate rise, so that tells me he has horrid spin efficiency. The 2600+ RPM he gets on the CU is also plenty good.

    Wright is a guy with raw parts and needs expert pitch crafting to work with him. He probably can't continue to throw 5 pitches that he can't control/execute.
    Yeah, particularly after yesterday.

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