Trades/acquisitions

[Carp]

Maybe. Could also be they are selling while he has any value left and becomes a Kyle Wright.

Oh I'm not saying he's likely to become JT. Just saying their values are probably very similar at their respective points. I'd be willing to bet most of us would have been pissed at the time to give up JT for 3 months of Hunter (or whatever 3 month rental star you'd like to use in his place).

[Carp]

This Marlins deal is exactly why it's hard to take anyone seriously who doesn't want to sell Morton. Two months of Starling Marte gets Luzardo. Imagine what Morton could return.

Yup. Of course, Scherzer needs to go first to get the other teams desperate.

[rico43]

A guy I'm wondering about is Max Kepler. He hasn't had a good year, but he is under control through 2023. Can play CF although not that well but statistics say he'd be better than Heredia. Problem is we would become a little to LHH-heavy seeing we just picked up Pederson.

A better question would be Buxton, who just said he not did care to sign an extension with the Twins. Pretty much five-tool guy (power may be a little shy) but would be perfect in center. His injury history is the biggest red flag, but they've all been legit.

OOPS. My bad. That should have said Buxton did NOT see himself signing an extension. The offer was a multi-year deal worth around $80 million.
In his injury plagued career, he currently has a fractured hand (HBP) and in the past has had to work through a strained hip, a bruised wrist, concussion symptoms from a collision with the OF wall, 2019 shoulder surgery, an earlier concussion from a beaning and troublesome hamstring.
So the odds are in his favor he'll be injury free the rest of his life, much less his career, and his skipper Rocco Baldelli (who had a similar injury history) says Buxton is hanging tough with a positive attitide.

[Enscheff]

I haven’t followed Luzardo lately but isn’t he still pretty big time? Seems like a big give for a rental

He was a FV 60, and this is what FG said about him when he graduated from the prospect lists: Luzardo has upper-90s gas, perhaps the best slider in the minors, and impressive command for someone with such a high-effort delivery. He's a front-end talent with a semi-scary injury history.

That's a pretty good get for a rental bat, even one as good as Marte.

[Enscheff]

straight slap in the face for the braves. Marlins also said to be throwing in a "significant" amount of cash in the deal

can't wait to hear AA talk about how high the prices were.

This is a comment from someone completely ignorant as to who Luzardo is.

[Enscheff]

I wonder if Muller would be the comp for the Braves.

Umm, not even close.

[50PoundHead]

A better question would be Buxton, who just said he did care to sign an extension with the Twins. Pretty much five-tool guy (power may be a little shy) but would be perfect in center. His injury history is the biggest red flag, but they've all been legit.

He's still injured now and he seems to end up on the DL getting out of a chair, but when he's on the field, he is really something. I would check in on him, but the price will be pretty high.

[rico43]

They can now start spinning off some of their arms. With Alcantara (through 2024), Rogers (2026), Lopez (2024), and Luzardo (2026) in place and Meyer getting close, they can do what AA should have done and look into what type of return they can get for Thompson, Sixto, Edward Cabrera, and Braxton Garrett.

The Marlins would be insane to trade any of their young, controllable players since this division will likely be up for grabs again next year.

[50PoundHead]

Umm, not even close.

Hence the use of my word "wonder."

[CyYoung31]

Can only hope we offered scrap heap and they wanted something unreasonable. Or they just refuse to deal with us. Duvall would be a preferable option as a platoon with Almonte. That’s about it. I’d prefer to just sell if that’s the extent of what AA is really going for, which I doubt it is.

I just mean I’d be worried about how the player I gave up turned out if I was the Braves, than about Adam Duvall playing for my rival if I was the Marlins.

[CyYoung31]

We are more than a few tweaks away, and the Mets have larger pieces coming back than we do. Lindor, Degrom, Carrasco, due back within the next 10 days and Thor due back in late August.

Lindor is not coming back in 10 days.

[thewupk]

Lindor is not coming back in 10 days.

When is he going to come?

[Enscheff]

Luzardo is the exact type of TOR lottery ticket teams should be targeting in trades like this. Getting those players at the MLB level is extremely hard, so taking a chance on developing your own is much better than getting some safe future platoon bat that can be bought on the FA market any time for peanuts.

The As may know something about Luzardo that nobody else does (they are a very smart organization), but if this were the return for Freeman I would have been pretty stoked.

I think the Marlins did well here...barring having the wool pulled over their eyes by the As somehow.

[50PoundHead]

When is he going to come?

Later tonight with Cy's mom.

[Carp]

Lindor is not coming back in 10 days.

I didn't see the update. My mistake. Either way, he'll be back in Sept with Thor.

[Enscheff]

The Marlins appear to have actually built the stable of impact arms the Braves homers thought they had built 5 years ago.

[thewupk]

Later tonight with Cy's mom.

damn

[50PoundHead]

The Marlins appear to have actually built the stable of impact arms the Braves homers thought they had built 5 years ago.

Agree on paper.

[thewupk]

The real question is. How happy do you think the DBacks are for getting Caleb Smith and Humberto Mejia for Marte instead of Luzardo

[Russ2dollas]

I would not have outbid the As for Marte. They can look at Marte in Free Agency.

I don't see AA doing any big moves. He is much more likely to go bargain bin shopping in the last 12 hours to find someone who is without a dance partner. Maybe he can get some bats where people are just dumping salary.

I just don't see how this team wins in the playoffs even if they get Bryant and another bat. So I don't want to see us give up any good prospects.

If there is a guy like Max Kepler, who has multiple years of control, and they think is a long term piece go for it. Doesn't seem like anything AA has done with us, but sure. I don't know if Kepler is a 1 WAR guy or the 2.5-4 WAR guy he's been a couple of years. But if you think he's a 3 WAR guy, I'd go hard with his contract. I'd sell high on Muller if possible. I don't see him as sustainable at all as a starter.