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    THURSDAY MINORS FINAL 9/9/21; TWO One-Hitters by Braves farmhands

    THURSDAY'S MINORS SCOREBOARD

    All Times Eastern

    CLASS AAA


    Gwinnett 1, Columbus 0

    WP: Elder (2-1) 7 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 7 K
    Burrows 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K
    Y.Lopez (Save, 2) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

    Camargo 2-4, 2 2B
    Casteel 1-3, HR (6th), RBI

    CLASS AA

    Mississippi 4, Montgomery 3

    WP: Rangel (3-2) 6 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 9 K
    McLaughlin 1 IP, 1 H
    Hernandez 1 IP, 1 BB
    Bro.Wilson (Save, 5) 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
    ***Staff: 12 Ks, 1 BBB***

    Harris 2-4, 2 2B, R, RBI
    Alexander 2-4, 2B, R, RBI, SB
    Rijo 1-4, 2B, R

    ADVANCED CLASS A

    Rome 11, Asheville 9 (10)
    ***Rome blows 4-run lead in 9th***

    SP: Vines 5 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 6 K
    Huntley 2.1 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 4 K
    WP: Dum (2-1) 2.2 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 2 HR

    Michel 3-6, HR (6th), 4 RBI
    C.Martinez 3-4, 4 R, RBI
    Moritz 3-6, R, 2 RBI
    Valdes 1-4, 2 R, RBI
    Grissom 0-2, 2 R, 3 BB, SB

    CLASS A

    Game One
    Augusta 6, Columbia 4 (7)

    SP: Cusick 3.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 7 K
    WP: Barger (4-4) 1.2 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 4 K
    Spain (save, 1) 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K

    Stephens 1-3, HR (18th), 2 RBI
    Bunnell 1-3, HR (15th), 2 RBI
    Vasquez 1-3, 2B
    Malloy 1-3, R

    Game Two
    Augusta 4, Columbia 0 (7)
    ***No-hitter lost in 7th***

    WP: Hoffmann (1-2) 5 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 7 K
    G.Rodriguez 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K
    L.Santos 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K

    Carter 2-3, 2 RBI
    Robinson 1-3, RBI, SB

    COMPLEX ROOKIES

    FCL Pirates 6, FCL Braves 2 (7)

    LP: Corona (1-4) 3.2 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
    Cubillan 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K
    C. Moreno 1 IP, 2 K

    Collins 3-3, R, 2 SB, 2 CS (.419)
    Mezquita 1-3, RBI
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    Saw this on Twitter... Here is Pache's slash line in his last 48 games at AAA - .310/.389/.497

    Let's hope a light bulb has turned on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Saw this on Twitter... Here is Pache's slash line in his last 48 games at AAA - .310/.389/.497

    Let's hope a light bulb has turned on.
    A legitimate CF is needed. Here's hoping Pache can turn into the guy that fills the position.

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    His September numbers are really good. .400/.483/.560

    SSS but the most impressive Sept. stat for him is having only 4 strikeouts in 29 PA.

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    Feedback I've seen is that he's staying more upright at the plate- not diving out over the plate and getting off balance like he was in the majors.

    But...if you do a quick twitter search for 'Pache upright' you'll see people saying in 2018, 2019, and 2020 that it looks like he's finally staying more upright at the plate. Who knows if it is something he'll maintain.

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    Good to see Pache picking it up recently, but it's hard to trust him as the everyday center fielder on Opening Day next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Saw this on Twitter... Here is Pache's slash line in his last 48 games at AAA - .310/.389/.497

    Let's hope a light bulb has turned on.
    That would be amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    Good to see Pache picking it up recently, but it's hard to trust him as the everyday center fielder on Opening Day next year.
    Not for me. I was still all in on him learning this year in the majors but hard to do with the early season implosion and injuries and celebrity boxing. There was no way to hide him. Additionally, he missed and entire year of development. I'm firmly a believer in Pache. His stance is upright and he's aggressive and confident. THAT player can be a difference maker.

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    Elder on the beam tonight. Great start. 1 H, O R, 7 IP to this point. Have to think his night is over after throwing 99 pitches.

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    Five hitless innings from Hoffmann. No-hitter lost in 7th (last) inning.

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    Even without a hit Grissom impacts the game. What a line for an 0-2 night

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Elder on the beam tonight. Great start. 1 H, O R, 7 IP to this point. Have to think his night is over after throwing 99 pitches.
    This guy has to be in the back of AA's mind when filling out the 8-10 man starting rotation for 2022.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    This guy has to be in the back of AA's mind when filling out the 8-10 man starting rotation for 2022.
    agree. I think Elder is in the Bryce Wilson role next year.

    Encouraging to see him miss more bats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    Good to see Pache picking it up recently, but it's hard to trust him as the everyday center fielder on Opening Day next year.
    Right. They gambled that he could jump that last rung on the ladder, and lost. A little bit more time seems to have helped a lot, glad he's got his stroke and confidence back. Now bring him north as a fourth outfielder and let him work his way in.

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    Michael Harris had all the buzz off season and in camp... but I'm thinking the player who's really stepped up and taken his prospect potential to the next level is Grissom. He should move up significantly across the rankings. He's been incredible this year. Also... Collins just keeps hitting.

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    After last night's MLB game, I'd like to see Pache up. We need a legit CF on the roster, if just in the late innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GovClintonTyree View Post
    Right. They gambled that he could jump that last rung on the ladder, and lost. A little bit more time seems to have helped a lot, glad he's got his stroke and confidence back. Now bring him north as a fourth outfielder and let him work his way in.
    This is a better plan for me. That additional learning year was needed last year, but it wasn't going to happen at the mlb level. But at minimum he should be up at this point.

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    Does anyone have a good breakdown of Elder's stuff/repertoire? Starting to get really excited about him based on numbers, but don't know much about the actual arsenal. I love that he seems to throw 6-7 innings in every start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Michael Harris had all the buzz off season and in camp... but I'm thinking the player who's really stepped up and taken his prospect potential to the next level is Grissom. He should move up significantly across the rankings. He's been incredible this year. Also... Collins just keeps hitting.

    I think Grissom is the one whose numbers this year jump out the most as a hitter. He's really been good for at least the whole second half. They let him get a long look at Low A, but seems like advancing a level hasn't done much to slow him down.

    Seems like his frame would have a lot of room to add power also and when you consider he's already handling the bat pretty well and can probably play about anywhere, that's really a nice thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCann'sCans View Post
    Does anyone have a good breakdown of Elder's stuff/repertoire? Starting to get really excited about him based on numbers, but don't know much about the actual arsenal. I love that he seems to throw 6-7 innings in every start.
    I don't have his exact repertoire handy but what I remember from draft day was that he was already very developed in mature/probably wouldn't need much time in the minors. I think he has quite a few pitches... like 3-5 but none are currently plus. I think his control has a chance to be plus. I think most of the optimistic projections have him as a 4 or 5.

    EDIT: sounds like his best two pitches are his sinker and slider.

    MLB Pipeline (for whatever they are worth) has his scouting grades as such:
    Fastball (sinker) that can touch 95 but sits in the low 90s: 50
    Slider: 60
    Curve: 55
    Changeup: 50
    Control: 50

    Fangraphs:
    Fastball: 50/50
    Slider: 50/50
    Curveball: 45/45
    Changeup: 45/50
    Command: 35/55

    Obviously Fangraphs isn't as gung ho which surprises no one with how crazy MLB pipeline gets.

    So he's a 4 pitch guy.
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