Official 2022 Offseason Moves Thread

[Slippyjms]

All of those things have happened the last 3-4 seasons as AA used the 10 day DL to shuffle pitchers around, and allowed guys to routinely get an extra day of rest rather than skipping the 5th starter. As opposed to the Mets who seem to not be able to keep anyone healthy...there must be systemic differences between organizations.

I think teams like the Dodgers are using NBA-style load management processes to keep guys playing at a higher level more often rather than playing while fatigued and/or banged up. I suspect things like exit velocity and sprint speed can inform them almost in real time when guys need a break. The Braves seem to be using similar processes on pitchers, but the presence of guys like Freeman may be proving to make it hard to extend the same methods to position players.

Could be a reason the Braves aren’t interested in giving Freeman the contract he wants.

[clvclv]

I'm guessing XM talk hosts neglected to mention Rodon's IP totals the last several years as he recovered from TJS.

2019: 34 IP
2020: 7 IP
2021: 132 IP

I think with that jump in IP it is very reasonable to expect him to wear down. I would argue the ChiSox did a poor job of limiting him early in the season because, well, TLR is a dinosaur manager and probably broke his favorite toy. We have seen the Braves manage SP workloads much more effectively for several years now.

However, the fact they didn't even offer him a QO suggests to me he may be damaged goods, so some diligence will certainly be required to verify it truly was just dead arm. To me, barring any current health problems, he seems like the prototypical Dodgers-esque pickup they baby through the regular season so they can unleash him in October.

They didn't cherry-pick those numbers - I did - their discussion was about his health in general when they had someone call in to toss out the idea of someone making him a Closer. (Didn't say it was a particularly intelligent discussion to start with either - LOL.)

I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head in saying he just feels like that Dodgers' kind of gamble - and at the same time feels exactly like the type of high AAV gamble Alex likes to make, but one that he simply may not be in a position to take this winter (even with the extra revenue). Like all the rest of the sheep, I just have that feeling that the Freeman situation isn't his call - that he's been told that they're going to eventually do what it takes to stretch for Freddie, but his walking orders are more of the "string it along for as long as you feel there's no REAL threat of him leaving and save us as much money as you can, but the minute you feel like there's a legitimate chance he's taking 6/180 somewhere else without coming back and allowing us the chance to match it, go ahead and put it on the table". There's nothing I've seen in print (or heard) to back that up, it just seems like all the talking heads are being fed that too since none of them think there's much of a chance he ends up elsewhere. I just think they're only going to allow him to continue to play chicken up to the point that there's a chance this turns into a Syndergaard type of situation.

Even if that ACTUALLY is the case and Alex has been told "take care of everything else you need to take care of and we'll step up when the time comes and make the Freeman situation work", I just feel like the $20 million for Morton represents the big money/short-term deal for a rotation piece and any other rotation adds will have to come in at or below the Smyly-range so he'll have enough left to address that one more LH/OF bat to keep them from HAVING TO start their defense with one of Pache or Waters in the lineup if they don't convincingly win their spot during camp - that he may have $20-25 million left to play with that isn't tied in any way to Freddie's situation, but ownership wants to build on the momentum with most things settled at the beginning of 2022 rather than feeling things out with multiple question marks as they go and try to adjust at the deadline. I think everybody understands that's the "smart" approach, but the other 29 teams trying to do the intelligent things don't have early-season ring presentation ceremony weekends to plan for, nor do they have the chance to be the first repeat Champions of this century.

[Hudson2]

Stupid CBA crap. It’s boring without any rumors

[striker42]

Stupid CBA crap. It’s boring without any rumors

Yesterday was the 17th anniversary of the culmination of Hot Nudism. I miss offseasons like that.

[Hudson2]

Yesterday was the 17th anniversary of the culmination of Hot Nudism. I miss offseasons like that.

Good times

[Heyward]

Cohen announced Showalter as their next manager. Interesting hire.

[NYCBrave]

Cohen announced Showalter as their next manager. Interesting hire.

He's someone I'm really not sure if he can relate to the modern player or adapt to the modern game. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

[PawPawMaxwell]

Perfect hire IMO. No nonsense type manager who could be ideal for a conglomerate of players like Mets are trending towards. Again, just my opinion.

[Enscheff]

Cohen announced Showalter as their next manager. Interesting hire.

What a perfectly Mets move to make. Hire a dinosaur who hasn’t managed a game in over 3 years, and spent his last decade in baseball leading the mighty Baltimore Orioles to glory.

[Nerfherders]

At least our dinosaur had no baggage coming in.

[Mad Dog Murph]

Ok. So we won’t have to worry about the Mets for the next few years.

[Mad Dog Murph]

Perfect hire IMO. No nonsense type manager who could be ideal for a conglomerate of players like Mets are trending towards. Again, just my opinion.

“Perfect” hire?? LOL

[NYCBrave]

At least our dinosaur had no baggage coming in.

Our dinosaur is a laid back, father figure to the players. Showalter appears to be a stubborn, fiery, no nonsense dinosaur who will have no problem trying to use that approach on the modern primadona type players. I'm not sure that still works. Can you imagine his reaction the first time he gets called out on Twitter by Cohen?

I was actually concerned they were going to pluck Quatraro from the Rays.

[Enscheff]

I keep holding out hope Quatraro finds his way to Atlanta.

[CyYoung31]

I keep holding out hope Quatraro finds his way to Atlanta.

Yep. Braves will never be a true World Series contender with Snitker at the helm.

[zitothebrave]

He's someone I'm really not sure if he can relate to the modern player or adapt to the modern game. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

Mets are hoping they can get the Showalter fired magic. The Yankees had almost 30 years ago and the D-Backs had almost 20 years ago.

[UNCBlue012]

I sure miss high-quality baseball talk.

[Dalyn]

I sure miss high-quality baseball talk.

Where had you been getting that from?

[CyYoung31]

Where had you been getting that from?

Your mom’s house.

[Mad Dog Murph]

Your mom’s house.

He said high quality baseball not high quality ball gags