Official 2022 Offseason Moves Thread

[Hudson2]

Could probably even add a BP piece on top of a SP addition as well. Just depends how much we gotta give for Olson, would presume a ton.

Like Encheff has said before, the A’s are a different animal all together. They’ll value guys differently than other teams will. I love Freeman but Olson makes a ton of sense here. More so than signing FF for 5 years.

[Heyward]

Like Encheff has said before, the A’s are a different animal all together. They’ll value guys differently than other teams will. I love Freeman but Olson makes a ton of sense here. More so than signing FF for 5 years.

I mean if the cost isnt as much as we think, while keeping Harris/Longo and adding an impact outfielder/SP/another BP piece with the extra money then sure. If the Braves wont go 6 years to Freeman though, who will? If he went to the Dodgers, i dont think it would be a 6 year deal, but high AAV deal for 3-4 year deal with some options. Hope this lockout eventually ends so we can see what happens once and for all though.

[Hudson2]

The ball has to be in Freeman’s court here. AA knows what it’ll take to get Olson and he’s probably already given FF his best offer.

[Freshmaker]

Dang - very interesting graphic here. Geaux AR-27

[Enscheff]

It's funny to me the way Austin Riley has dramatically swung from being over and under rated and back again in 3 calendar years.

[Carp]

Still surprised the Pads missed the playoffs with all the talent they had. I expect they will be much improved in 2022. Darvish and Snell both pitched better than their results showed in 2021. Clevinger returns this year. I would expect Tatis to be more healthy too.

Of course, their offense probably over-performed as a unit as well.

[JohnBoy]

It's funny to me the way Austin Riley has dramatically swung from being over and under rated and back again in 3 calendar years.

agreed. Makes me wonder if just once we try to cash in. Riley for Olson, Chapman, and Manea plus maybe minor pieces on both sides. The A's get to clear ~$30MM off their books, we get a replacement 3B with superb defense and OK offense, a great 1B, and a solid SP. And by not resigning Freddie and removing Riley's money, we'll pay less for more in 2022 and gain a draft pick.

Incoming FG WAR Projections MLB Trade Rumors projection:
Olson 4.6 12.0
Chapman 3.5 9.5
Manea 3.1 10.2
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Total 11.2 31.7


Outgoing FG WAR Projections MLB Trade Rumors projection:
Riley 3.3 4.3
Freeman 4.5 30.0 <--- just a wild guess on the money.
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Total 7.8 34.3


And since we're projected to have 30-40MM free, maybe we go for Correa and really bump the WAR up (Correa at 5.2 WAR vs Dansby at 5.2).

Gotta dream.

[Enscheff]

Still surprised the Pads missed the playoffs with all the talent they had. I expect they will be much improved in 2022. Darvish and Snell both pitched better than their results showed in 2021. Clevinger returns this year. I would expect Tatis to be more healthy too.

Of course, their offense probably over-performed as a unit as well.

The Pads surprised me since I was assured Prellar was the best GM ever because he made so many flashy moves fans loved.

Dude has about 5 off season championships....yet hasn't won anything.

[Russ2dollas]

I mean if the cost isnt as much as we think, while keeping Harris/Longo and adding an impact outfielder/SP/another BP piece with the extra money then sure. If the Braves wont go 6 years to Freeman though, who will? If he went to the Dodgers, i dont think it would be a 6 year deal, but high AAV deal for 3-4 year deal with some options. Hope this lockout eventually ends so we can see what happens once and for all though.

If the AAs will do a deal on Contreras and some of the Muller/Strider/Elder/Touki/Davidson guys then get Olson and keep Freeman. Put Olson at DH and put Marcel out in LF.

[zitothebrave]

Still surprised the Pads missed the playoffs with all the talent they had. I expect they will be much improved in 2022. Darvish and Snell both pitched better than their results showed in 2021. Clevinger returns this year. I would expect Tatis to be more healthy too.

Of course, their offense probably over-performed as a unit as well.

Does it surprise you?

Look at their offense. Sure they have top tier players in Tatis and Machado (Manny isn't the right player for San Diego I think though nut he still is a very good player) but aside from them, what other offensive talent do they have? Their second best hitter last year was Jake Cronenworth. Unless you massively overrate Wil Myers and Eric Hosmer, there's not a ton of talent there. WHen you think of the Braves you immediately go, oh yeah, Freeman, Acuna, Albies. That's a rock solid trio. And that's roughly what San Diego has with Tatis, Machado, and Cronenworth (though I don't know if I think he can keep playing at a high level since he didn't break into the bigs until he was 26, but maybe he's a Ben Zobrist type who made a big change to his swing and approach) but the Braves then followed that up with Riley and Swanson, both much better performers than Grisham and Pham.

[Carp]

Does it surprise you?

Look at their offense. Sure they have top tier players in Tatis and Machado (Manny isn't the right player for San Diego I think though nut he still is a very good player) but aside from them, what other offensive talent do they have? Their second best hitter last year was Jake Cronenworth. Unless you massively overrate Wil Myers and Eric Hosmer, there's not a ton of talent there. WHen you think of the Braves you immediately go, oh yeah, Freeman, Acuna, Albies. That's a rock solid trio. And that's roughly what San Diego has with Tatis, Machado, and Cronenworth (though I don't know if I think he can keep playing at a high level since he didn't break into the bigs until he was 26, but maybe he's a Ben Zobrist type who made a big change to his swing and approach) but the Braves then followed that up with Riley and Swanson, both much better performers than Grisham and Pham.

7 of their 8 starting players were at least league average hitters (or better) when you adjust for park factors. Those 7 had an cumulative OBP over .340, with the lowest being a .327 OBP by Grisham. That's quite good. I'm not trying to paint them out to be an offensive juggernaut, but it certainly seemed like they had a much better team than their record would reflect.

[thewupk]

[Jaw]

That had to feel good.

[Enscheff]

Love the shush to the crowd.

I'll probably be following this kid no matter where he ends up.

[The Chosen One]

Looks like his father's swing.

[thewupk]

Looks like his father's swing.

Yeah. Had 96 WS vibes with that swing.

[The Chosen One]

Yeah. Had 96 WS vibes with that swing.

THe way he really plants and extends and hyperextends that front leg through the zone. Classic Andruw.

[CyYoung31]

I just watched an hour long condensed version of our postseason run. Man, what a run that was. I feel like I didn’t appreciate it enough while it was happening, even though I had been waiting 26 years for it to happen. Duvall’s grand slam was the most chill-inducing moment for me, even though we ended up losing that game.

[zitothebrave]

Shame there's no way we can draft Druw. I would be looking into any ways we could possibly trade for him within reason.

[zitothebrave]

7 of their 8 starting players were at least league average hitters (or better) when you adjust for park factors. Those 7 had an cumulative OBP over .340, with the lowest being a .327 OBP by Grisham. That's quite good. I'm not trying to paint them out to be an offensive juggernaut, but it certainly seemed like they had a much better team than their record would reflect.

A team of league average hitters isn't going to go very far, especially when your league average hitters occupy traditional offensive posiitions like 1b and LF. Bottom 5 in both position. Sure you replace value with positive production from SS and 2B, but it's a healthy drop off.

Here's where they wound up. 14th in wRC+, 15th in BsR, 18th in defensive fWAR, 19th in fWAR for pitchers, 19th in ERA-. Basically across the board they were average. So finishing around .500 is what you should expect.

I could go on further. Padres are not a bad team, they are a shocking year from Hosmer or Myers from being a good squad coupled with good pitching help. But odds are they'll be another around .500 team unless they get 2-3 player playing above form.