Official 2022 Offseason Moves Thread

[drewdat]

He's the reigning NL MVP. He always did.

[UofL_Braves]

It's probably gonna cost around there. 5/150, 6/180 given he's this close to FA. Freddie has all the leverage here.

Exactly so why wouldn't we feel comfortable doing that for the heart of the team. Chipper instilled in him the Braves Way. With DH more than likely coming next season it just gives us even more reason to because he could slide in there when he starts to slip defensively.

[50PoundHead]

Whispers they're gonna look to trade him.

It's a puzzler to me. They are either going to have to send a considerable chunk of change with Kimbrel to get a decent prospect or settle for less-than-optimal return. Seems it would have made more sense to just let him walk.

[mfree80]

I hope and believe that Freddie realizes what AA already knows.

If he insists on a six year high dollar contract, the Braves competitive window will be shortened by several years.

Chipper is the example. In the latter years of his career, he reduced his salary in return for adding additional years at smaller numbers.

Sticking the Braves with an albatross contract as he begins to decline in a few years would make the Braves look like the Angels who have had a couple of high paid stars, but never been able to surround them with a competitive team.

I hope Freddie is smart enough to see this.

[bravesfanforlife88]

It's a puzzler to me. They are either going to have to send a considerable chunk of change with Kimbrel to get a decent prospect or settle for less-than-optimal return. Seems it would have made more sense to just let him walk.

At this point, they have to get something for him. They gave up some really good prospects to land him at the deadline. So either A.) They can't trade him for a decent enough return and keep him, hoping he rebounds. or B.) They trade him for a package, much less than what they traded to get him

[Hudson2]

Freeman has gotten this far so he’s not taking as big of a discount as we hope. I think 30 per is where he’s gonna want to be.

[clvclv]

Re Yankees- They're much more likely to go for one of the big name shortstops than Freeman, plus they have SP needs. Freeman doesnt seem like a NY guy anyway.
Re Dodgers- Cant see it given all the FA's they have. Belly/Muncy can very easily cover 1B and Dodgers have to find some SP options. They basically only have Buehler and Urias right now.
Red Sox and Angels are the only non-Braves options i can see. I couldnt see Freeman relocating his family to Boston, LA yes. But Braves have probably botched this whole situation given they should have signed him before ST at a much much less likely deal than it is going to be down. 6 years/165-170 million would be terrible, im hoping for 5-140/150 at most.

I wouldn't be so sure about the Dodgers blowing the budget on pitching. They'll likely bring Kershaw back at a reduced rate, they have Price for one more year (and his numbers weren't exactly "awful" when you consider he never had a specific role). May will be back at some point. Gonsolin could go back to starting on a regular basis. They also have Pepiot and Miller knocking on the door. Given how analytically-inclined they are, it's not that hard to see them leaning more towards the Rays' way of handling a staff. Instead of splurging on SPs, it wouldn't exactly be shocking to see them add MOR guys with upside like DeSclafani, Wood, Pineda, etc. and wind up with a whole lot of arms who could be bulk guys.

I don't think Freddie would much care for playing in New York either, but he's a perfect fit there - and it's not like signing him would be the first time they chose to spend money on flashy offensive signings rather than pitching. Green and Loaisiga have been starters in the past, and it also wouldn't be shocking to see them count on Severino and Taillon returning to health and being dominant after they just finished gambling on someone like Kluber.

The point is there are a lot of places Freddie would fit - and not signing him much earlier when he would have cost much less turned out to be a huge mistake.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Freeman has gotten this far so he’s not taking as big of a discount as we hope. I think 30 per is where he’s gonna want to be.

I wonder if winning a world series with us changes anything on his end. At this point, he has no unfinished business here in Atlanta. He lives in California during the offseason. I wouldn't be shocked if he left this offseason to be honest.

[jpx7]

Any wishers can take Kimbrel off their list.

Doubtful. They just likely intend to trade him.

It's a puzzler to me. They are either going to have to send a considerable chunk of change with Kimbrel to get a decent prospect or settle for less-than-optimal return. Seems it would have made more sense to just let him walk.

I think they're fine paying a chunk of that contract to recoup some prospects, after questionably sending out Madrigal.

[Hudson2]

I wonder if winning a world series with us changes anything on his end. At this point, he has no unfinished business here in Atlanta. He lives in California during the offseason. I wouldn't be shocked if he left this offseason to be honest.

He got his World Series here so he might not be hungry and feel as obligated to win another here. Who knows but if the Angels blow him away he could be gone. If he is I’d turn to Kris Bryant pretty quick. Rizzo would be my plan C. They have to have a pretty good idea of what’s gonna happen with Ozuna by now. Bc having that money available would really be huge for repeating.

[chopdrew]

FWIW, AA told a radio station here in Atlanta he fully expects to have everyone back next year. Some of that is hyperbole, but there has been no euphemisms thrown around about "Well, moving forward we're going to do what's best long term" or "we have to make sure our priorities line up with Freddie's" or stuff like that. It would be an absolute PR death sentence not to have Freddie here next year, and given that Truist has to be reasonably full for LM to make any money, given how things are set up now, they can't afford to let their biggest star walk out the door. That is the one talking point from a bygone era that you still hear around here, btw. "Liberty Media's not gonna spend money." Nevermind that payroll has gone up considerably since Truist opened. That's the last narrative to die, and it would not at all shock me to see AA go wild this offseason. This FO saw what a perennially dominant Braves team would to from a "Butts in seats" perspective, and there's no chance that Schiller, McGuirk, or AA are that oblivious as to what their customer base expects of them. It would be bad business from a box office perspective to let Freddie sign somewhere else.

[PawPawMaxwell]

Tomlin is gone. Add $1M to the pot.

[CJ9]

Tomlin is gone. Add $1M to the pot.

Also interesting they added Alan Rangel to the major league roster.

[PawPawMaxwell]

Doubtful. They just likely intend to trade him.



I think they're fine paying a chunk of that contract to recoup some prospects, after questionably sending out Madrigal.

As weak as our prospect list is at the present I doubt WSox desire them and also doubt AA would pile another $16M plus the ego involved into the pen.

[Hudson2]

As weak as our prospect list is at the present I doubt WSox desire them and also doubt AA would pile another $16M plus the ego involved into the pen.

I would like to get a strong RH like Graveman in the bullpen.

[50PoundHead]

Also interesting they added Alan Rangel to the major league roster.

He's probably a six-year free agent and could have gone anywhere without restrictions on the team that signed him unless he went on our 40-man. I doubt anyone would have taken him in the Rule 5, but he did have a performance uptick this season (big jump in K-rate) and they probably want to keep him in the system.

[Heyward]

Hard pass on Kimbrel at 16 mil, much more cheaper/similar arms available.

[The Chosen One]

Wonder if Melancon would come back.

He’d replace Martin.

[Southcack77]

I want Seager if FF leaves. Play him at 3b next season while we still have Swanson

Nah, you trade or release Swanson in that scenario.

Not having Freddie or Dansby would really infuriate the casuals though.

Edit: I guess you're moving Riley to first and I suppose that does work.

[Southcack77]

As weak as our prospect list is at the present I doubt WSox desire them and also doubt AA would pile another $16M plus the ego involved into the pen.

They're probably holding out for a top 10 prospect for their 16m set up man.