Official 2022 Offseason Moves Thread

[chop2chip]

Freddie should fire his agent.

Well it depends. His agent did his job ultimately (got him the highest offer). Freddie is at fault for not establishing priorities.

[McCann'sCans]

Can you post the text? I dont have espn +

Boils down to Freddie’s agents trying to play hardball and losing. Braves made him an offer in 2020 that was low because of COVID, they wanted more. Braves upped the offer before the 2021 season, they wanted more. Braves upped the offer to 5/140 after this season, they wanted more. Anthopolous gave them a deadline- said the Braves needed to move on- and they made two counter offers something like 6/168 or 5/165. AA turned them both down and made the trade for Olson within about 24 hours, got the extension done while he was en route to Atlanta.

A handful of quotes from Chipper saying that Freddie wanted to stay and chipper warned him that he’s “playing a dangerous game” and “Alex has a job to do.” Apparently Freddie was heartbroken when the Braves moved on.

Honestly not sure how to read it other than AA did exactly what he should have done.

[striker42]

Well it depends. His agent did his job ultimately (got him the highest offer). Freddie is at fault for not establishing priorities.

I get the feeling Freddie's agent was in his ear telling him the Braves will come back with a 6th year. If that's the case, the agent should be fired.

[The Chosen One]

Same. Counter to my initial read on this situation, Freddie wasn’t dead set on LA. It seems as if his representatives wanted to dictate terms and played hard ball with the Braves without a better offer in hand. AA eventually called their bluff and moved on and Freddie was left scrambling.

That Chipper took the initiative to remain a Brave for life while negotiating with a front office that was far less flexible than AA is even more amazing.

Andruw did the same with his early contract.

Don't think the Braves wanted to keep him obviously once his body broke down, but he did take it upon himself.

[chop2chip]

I get the feeling Freddie's agent was in his ear telling him the Braves will come back with a 6th year. If that's the case, the agent should be fired.

BB Abbott has a much perspective. When you want something done, you negotiate with that person rather than against that person.

[The Chosen One]

BB Abbott has a much perspective. When you want something done, you negotiate with that person rather than against that person.

BB Abbott now represents Olson.

Braves gave Olson a below market value extension. Abbott approached his client. Olson asked him what was the downside. Olson signed and gave the Braves a discount to stay home.

Freddie has nobody to blame but himself.

[thewupk]

From the espn+ article regarding Olson's extension

In his history of negotiations with Anthopolous, Abbott says, "Alex is someone you don't negotiate against. He's someone you negotiate with. ... You work with him and tell him what you want."

This exchange was no different. Atlanta's first proposal was $140 million over seven years, and when Abbott countered, it kicked off rapid-fire haggling. Olson boarded a plane in Arizona at 11:50 p.m., and Abbott told his client to get on Wifi because he'd need to get in touch with him during the flight. After some back and forth, Abbott proposed $168 million over eight years, with a club option for a ninth year. When Anthopoulos agreed, Abbott texted the numbers to Olson, who has made about $6.1 million in his career to date.

Olson responded: Are you serious?

When Abbott confirmed the numbers, Olson replied: Holy s---.

He still could barely believe it -- he asked Abbott if the money was all guaranteed.

Yes. All of it.

[thethe]

Its wild that Freeman haggled for money that will make no difference to his family long term (especially when you consider after tax dollars).

I wish we could have him back as well as the prospects.

Awful.

[chop2chip]

Andruw did the same with his early contract.

Don't think the Braves wanted to keep him obviously once his body broke down, but he did take it upon himself.

Andruw doesn’t get near enough love from Braves fans for going behind Boras’s back to get that deal done.

The 14 year division streak is as much about players sacrificing to keep the team together than anything else. Phil Jackson talked about the “dance of the wounded egos” and how once you have had team success, individuals begin prioritizing themselves. It’s incredible how the Braves had so many players bigger than that during the streak.

[thewupk]

Its wild that Freeman haggled for money that will make no difference to his family long term (especially when you consider after tax dollars).

I wish we could have him back as well as the prospects.

Awful.

I'd rather have guys that want to be here

[thethe]

I'd rather have guys that want to be here

Pache wanted to be here...

I think Freeman did as well but when you get to his level you have a lot of things in your ear and you lose track of yourself.

[thewupk]

Pache wanted to be here...

I think Freeman did as well but when you get to his level you have a lot of things in your ear and you lose track of yourself.

Freeman didn't make it a priority though

[tululush]

Pache wanted to be here...

I think Freeman did as well but when you get to his level you have a lot of things in your ear and you lose track of yourself.

He had his mentor (Chipper) in his ear warning him. He knew the risks and still gambled. Hard to feel badly for someone when they knowingly did this to themselves. Anyways, it worked out for the best and we’re likely better off for it.

[tululush]

Pache wanted to be here...

I think Freeman did as well but when you get to his level you have a lot of things in your ear and you lose track of yourself.

Freeman had the choice. Pache had zero choice. Huge difference.

[Tapate50]

Hard to not wish him well in all his future endeavors at this point and turn to the Olson page

[CyYoung31]

I'll give you my espn+ login tomorrow after your mom pays for it tonight

My mom would never date anyone who paid for ESPN+.

[The Chosen One]

Freddie sounds super salty.

[The Chosen One]

[chop2chip]

Oh **** off Freddie. The Braves offered you basically the same money you got from the Dodgers (arguably more once you factor in taxes).

[chop2chip]

I have a tough time with Freddie playing victim here. He’s acting as if AA did some grand betrayal.