Official 2022 Offseason Moves Thread

[ixiXSolidXixi]

I still think we could see a combo of Buxton and Bellinger. 2 players a year from FA who could catch fire and bring back a pick, that would not cost much to acquire in prospect capital.

I really doubt Dodgers trade with us.

[Hudson2]

I really doubt Dodgers trade with us.

The Pirates will

[Chico]

I really doubt Dodgers trade with us.

If it allowed them to resign some players I don’t think they would care.

[Enscheff]

When was the last time the Dodgers, and their $275M payroll, traded away an MLB contributor? Matt Kemp?

[clvclv]

When was the last time the Dodgers, and their $275M payroll, traded away an MLB contributor? Matt Kemp?

Beyond that, when was the last time they shipped someone out without getting a haul back? I have little interest in trading with the Dodgers - like the Rays, they'll gut your system without you even realizing it's happening, They'll wind up taking guys you feel more than happy to part with and wind up turning them into stars.

Also have zero interest in Buxton (or Donaldson since someone mentioned him earlier), and find it rather strange that anyone else does. NEITHER one of those guys can stay on the field, and the Twins aren't taking Ozuna in some kind of bad contract swap. Money's tight already, and adding an expensive player who won't play in half the games isn't going to help you defend anything. They have Sano, Kepler, Kirilloff, Larnach, and Rooker already on the roster as potential DHs with Austin Martin knocking on the door. If they're interested in trading Kirilloff or Larnach for one of Langeliers or Contreras and a throw-in arm, that kind of deal would make a lot of sense - we'd get an inexpensive LH corner OF bat from their surplus and they'd get an inexpensive Catcher from ours.

[Carp]

When was the last time the Dodgers, and their $275M payroll, traded away an MLB contributor? Matt Kemp?

If the Dodgers are willing to ship out Bellinger, you can bet they know something that we don't.

[GovClintonTyree]

If the Dodgers are willing to ship out Bellinger, you can bet they know something that we don't.

That he hit a buck-sixty? Common knowledge

[GovClintonTyree]

Some people just win the genetic lottery.

Thanks for cropping!

Apparently she gets a lot of crap in her professional life for being too heavy.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that my requirements and theirs don't line up.

[NYCBrave]

If the Dodgers are willing to ship out Bellinger, you can bet they know something that we don't.

Exactly. Luckily AA learned under the smart people in the Dodgers organization and seems to understand this.

[50PoundHead]

Beyond that, when was the last time they shipped someone out without getting a haul back? I have little interest in trading with the Dodgers - like the Rays, they'll gut your system without you even realizing it's happening, They'll wind up taking guys you feel more than happy to part with and wind up turning them into stars.

Also have zero interest in Buxton (or Donaldson since someone mentioned him earlier), and find it rather strange that anyone else does. NEITHER one of those guys can stay on the field, and the Twins aren't taking Ozuna in some kind of bad contract swap, Money's tight already, and adding an expensive player who won't play in half the games isn't going to help you defend anything. They have Sano, Kepler, Kirilloff, Larnach, and Rooker already on the roster as potential DHs with Austin Martin knocking on the door. If they're interested in trading Kirilloff or Larnach for one of Langeliers or Contreras and a throw-in arm, that kind of deal would make a lot of sense - we'd get an inexpensive LH corner OF bat from their surplus and they'd get an inexpensive Catcher from ours.

I only mentioned Buxton because I don't think we have anywhere near the prospect capital necessary to land Reynolds. Pirates are supposedly looking for two Top 50 prospects in any deal involving Reynolds and we just don't have that.

Agree that Buxton can't stay on the field, but I think he may come cheap from the Twins, who are in an odd kind of limbo. They waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay underperformed in 2021, mostly due to an abysmal pitching staff. You could probably get Buxton for Wright plus one. I'm not necessarily advocating that, but given Buxton's injury issues, he's obviously on a "prove it" situation. And the Twins may not want to move him during the off-season and instead wait for the 2022 deadline. Twins' core still has some promise and if (big IF) they get some pitching, they could bounce back and contend in that division,

Twins would let Donaldson go for a bag of balls as long as the other team picked up all his salary. He's also had problems staying on the field and if the front office has soured on him anywhere near as much as the fan base and the media, it won't be a surprise if he gets moved. But as is the case with Buxton, the Twins' front office says they aren't going to do a tear down and moving Donaldson for next-to-nothing would leave a whole omelet on their collective face given the deal they signed him to prior to 2020.

You're right that the Twins are filled to the brim with semi-plow horse OFs, which has always been their go-to profile over the years. Kepler was terrible in 2021 and Kiriloff (who also had some injury problems), Larnach, and Rooker didn't look ready. Kiriloff and Larnach still have decent ceilings, so I doubt they would move them. Sano isn't an OF, but he's probably not long for the squad. Dropping him would save the team a lot of money as the cost for the post-game food spread would be cut in half.

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I only mentioned Buxton because I don't think we have anywhere near the prospect capital necessary to land Reynolds. Pirates are supposedly looking for two Top 50 prospects in any deal involving Reynolds and we just don't have that.

Agree that Buxton can't stay on the field, but I think he may come cheap from the Twins, who are in an odd kind of limbo. They waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay underperformed in 2021, mostly due to an abysmal pitching staff. You could probably get Buxton for Wright plus one. I'm not necessarily advocating that, but given Buxton's injury issues, he's obviously on a "prove it" situation. And the Twins may not want to move him during the off-season and instead wait for the 2022 deadline. Twins' core still has some promise and if (big IF) they get some pitching, they could bounce back and contend in that division,

Twins would let Donaldson go for a bag of balls as long as the other team picked up all his salary. He's also had problems staying on the field and if the front office has soured on him anywhere near as much as the fan base and the media, it won't be a surprise if he gets moved. But as is the case with Buxton, the Twins' front office says they aren't going to do a tear down and moving Donaldson for next-to-nothing would leave a whole omelet on their collective face given the deal they signed him to prior to 2020.

You're right that the Twins are filled to the brim with semi-plow horse OFs, which has always been their go-to profile over the years. Kepler was terrible in 2021 and Kiriloff (who also had some injury problems), Larnach, and Rooker didn't look ready. Kiriloff and Larnach still have decent ceilings, so I doubt they would move them. Sano isn't an OF, but he's probably not long for the squad. Dropping him would save the team a lot of money as the cost for the post-game food spread would be cut in half.

The problem with Buxton - beyond the injury concerns - is that he's going to make $7 million plus this year. That's $3 million more than Reynolds and he's already been crazy enough to turn down an extension. If he's healthy at the deadline I could see Alex poking around on him, but definitely not before - if you give up an arm or two for him, you STILL may wind up with Duvall, Pache, Heredia, or Waters in CF come the middle of May. I love the talent, but personally wouldn't touch Buxton with a 10 foot pole other than as a pure rental down the stretch. I only mentioned Sano as part of their DH mix - I'd expect they plan to play Kirilloff exclusively at 1B now that Larnach has been promoted. With Sano and Rooker as a potential DH platoon, they're certainly not going to help Alex out by taking Ozuna back in any deal.

The same goes for Donaldson for me. Why give up talent - even if it isn't top flight talent - for a guy who will whine that you need to move Riley to 1B or LF so that he can play 3B 10 days a month? He's a significant step down from Freeman even when he's healthy, you'd have to move other parts of your core around to play him where he wants so you don't have to hear him spout off to the press, you'd have given something up to get him - AND you'd be stuck with his and Ozuna's *hitty contracts for the next three years. If you're going to wind up with 6 years worth of bad contracts on your roster I'd just as soon re-sign the face of the franchise, TYVM - there's a good chance you get close to as much production from Freeman through 2024 as what you're likely going to get from Ozuna and Donaldson combined.

[bravesfanforlife88]

If the Dodgers are willing to ship out Bellinger, you can bet they know something that we don't.

I still have PTSD from the Hector Olivera trade

[Enscheff]

Apparently she gets a lot of crap in her professional life for being too heavy.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that my requirements and theirs don't line up.

Personally, I don’t see the appeal at all.

I’m sure she’s be crushed to learn that.

[The Chosen One]

Personally, I don’t see the appeal at all.

I’m sure she’s be crushed to learn that.

For a girl that used to ride equestrian she has no trunk or hips or thick thighs.

I’m a legs and glutes guy. Those melons she has will not age well. Once that goes she won’t have much to fall back on.

[Mad Dog Murph]

Personally, I don’t see the appeal at all.

I’m sure she’s be crushed to learn that.

Now I have to take all your posts with a grain of salt because you are obviously insane. 🤣

[The Chosen One]

Kate Upton is a poor woman's Prime Katherine Heigl.

[Jaw]

Kate Upton is a poor woman's Prime Katherine Heigl.

I demand a thumbs down button

[Freshmaker]

Heigel was the smoke back in the day - excellent taste. No complaints at all about Kate either - she’s girl next door hot

[mfree80]

I wish something baseball related would happen.

[CyYoung31]

Those melons she has will not age well. Once that goes she won’t have much to fall back on.

You can say that about any woman. After 30, it’s pretty much over, save for a select few.