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    I wouldn’t hate the Hughes pick. We’ve always been a pitching first organization but with the farm pretty thin we could use help everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I wouldn’t hate the Hughes pick. We’ve always been a pitching first organization but with the farm pretty thin we could use help everywhere.
    Law has Braves taking Justin Crawford from Bishop Gorman. He's Carl's son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandBrave View Post
    Law has Braves taking Justin Crawford from Bishop Gorman. He's Carl's son.
    I'd LOVE to see us take a HS position player. I'm just assuming it's a college arm until proven otherwise with this group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    I'd LOVE to see us take a HS position player. I'm just assuming it's a college arm until proven otherwise with this group.
    Law’s reasoning for Crawford was that we have a thinned out system devoid of star power. I don’t disagree with that, but I also have doubts about whether that drives Dana Brown and team’s decision making. They have a clear preference of college guys early, upside HS guys later that has played out every draft since he’s been here. I don’t think the state of the system would have much impact on the way he evaluates players at 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Law’s reasoning for Crawford was that we have a thinned out system devoid of star power. I don’t disagree with that, but I also have doubts about whether that drives Dana Brown and team’s decision making. They have a clear preference of college guys early, upside HS guys later that has played out every draft since he’s been here. I don’t think the state of the system would have much impact on the way he evaluates players at 20.
    Not sure how a thin system should lead to wilder swings at talent.

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    BPA regardless whether they are HS or college guys should always be the strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    BPA regardless whether they are HS or college guys should always be the strategy.
    It's clearly not, though I agree with you.

    Looks to me to be a heavy look at a statistical model rounds 1 and 2. A model that seems to favor college pitchers with velocity spikes that will not continue in the minors.

    THen late they go more scouting of traits for high upside HS guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    It's clearly not, though I agree with you.

    Looks to me to be a heavy look at a statistical model rounds 1 and 2. A model that seems to favor college pitchers with velocity spikes that will not continue in the minors.

    THen late they go more scouting of traits for high upside HS guys.
    I agree.. seems they are looking for guys more ready to contribute in the next year or two early while the competition window is open. Then back fill talent in later rounds with higher ceiling guys that might be over slot. They can also get international draft kids to fill lower minors.

    I can't say I hate that approach either.
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    Kiley's first mock draft came out today.


    20. Atlanta Braves
    Cooper Hjerpe, LHP, Oregon State

    I've heard mostly under-slot college pitchers here including Georgia's Jonathan Cannon, Campbell's Thomas Harrington and Iowa's Adam Mazur, along with rising righty Jacob Miller. Miller and Robby Snelling are the two high school pitchers with a shot to get a slot-or-better bonus in the 20s behind the Lesko/Porter/Barriera group.

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    Oh, an under-slot college pitcher. Be still my heart.

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    'Under-slot college pitchers!' Are there any words more thrilling to the human soul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    'Under-slot college pitchers!' Are there any words more thrilling to the human soul?
    I can imagine his scouting report is littered with

    “Relies on the hitter getting themselves out”
    “Three above average pitches”
    “Hits his spots”
    “Sits 89-91 but can reach back for 93 when he needs to”

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    I can imagine his scouting report is littered with

    “Relies on the hitter getting themselves out”
    “Three above average pitches”
    “Hits his spots”
    “Sits 89-91 but can reach back for 93 when he needs to”
    Well he just knows how to pitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Kiley's first mock draft came out today.


    20. Atlanta Braves
    Cooper Hjerpe, LHP, Oregon State

    I've heard mostly under-slot college pitchers here including Georgia's Jonathan Cannon, Campbell's Thomas Harrington and Iowa's Adam Mazur, along with rising righty Jacob Miller. Miller and Robby Snelling are the two high school pitchers with a shot to get a slot-or-better bonus in the 20s behind the Lesko/Porter/Barriera group.
    Newest BA mock is out - has the Braves taking Hjerpe as well...

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/rank...lb-mock-draft/

    I will say that even though that's pretty uninspiring for lots of folks, it is nice to read that he's considered somewhat of an "analytical darling".
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Newest BA mock is out - has the Braves taking Hjerpe as well...

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/rank...lb-mock-draft/

    I will say that even though that's pretty uninspiring for lots of folks, it is nice to read that he's considered somewhat of an "analytical darling".
    BA write up also said many scouts have him as a late first early second rounder in a normal year without this many college pitching injuries.

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    No thanks on a dude almost named Herpe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    No thanks on a dude almost named Herpe
    Herpes and AIDS would make for an unstoppable team.
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    I loathe picking underslot starters in the first round with ceilings of a number 3 or 4 starter. I'd much rather go for elite ceiling in the first and pay slot for middle of the rotation types later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I loathe picking underslot starters in the first round with ceilings of a number 3 or 4 starter. I'd much rather go for elite ceiling in the first and pay slot for middle of the rotation types later on.
    I’m with you striker, get the guy you know has the best chance to succeed first and then go after lottery picks.

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    I will play devils advocate and say we did get guys like Backsrorm, Etes, and Grissom in 19 doing that strategy
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