Minor league thread

[Enscheff]

Ynoa and muller are both 24, which certainly isn't young, but wright didn't come into his own until he was 26. Maybe they'll figure it out too. I think one will anyway.

ETA... fried figures things out at 25

The difference is Fried and Wright had measurably good stuff to work with.

[msstate7]

The difference is Fried and Wright had measurably good stuff to work with.

We don't need ynoa and/or muller to TOR types like fried and wright. I solid 4 would be just fine with me

[Enscheff]

Just seeing folks refer to Wright as a TOR guy and me not having any way to really dispute that comment makes me smile.

I was so excited when the Braves were able to draft him, and so disappointed when he could never seem to figure things out. I really hope he’s turned into the guy we were stoked fell to the Braves at pick 5.

[Carp]

Nah. I don’t think he was. He had a few good games when teams were aggressive.

He had 3.2 bWAR in his first 2 seasons as a starter (260 innings). That's more than a few good starts.

[Carp]

Newk was a solid MOR pitcher for like 4 starts not a whole season. He was solid in the pen for one whole season but had a much higher FIP. Ynoa still has lots of potential but I think mainly as a reliever. Even last year before he broke his hand, I seem to remember his great stats were buoyed by quite a bit of luck. If I remember correctly, his FIP, xFIP etc… were all way higher

3.2 bWAR through his first 2 seasons would suggest he was every bit a solid MOR over that span. He quickly lost it however. In ST 2019 he couldn't find the strike zone and got lit up when he did. They moved him to the pen and had a great season. Then was trash after that.

[Carp]

Just seeing folks refer to Wright as a TOR guy and me not having any way to really dispute that comment makes me smile.

I was so excited when the Braves were able to draft him, and so disappointed when he could never seem to figure things out. I really hope he’s turned into the guy we were stoked fell to the Braves at pick 5.

I'm still worried this is just a hot stretch. He hasn't really been dominant at any point as a professional. But so far he passes the smell test, both on his underlying stats and visually. Would be nice to have another TOR type of starter for the next ~5 years.

[msstate7]

Waters 3-3, 3b

[msstate7]

Muller gave up a 3-spot in the 1st inning, but he's gone 4 scoreless since...

5.0 ip 3 h 3 er 0 bb 7 k

Really like the nice rebound, and love the 0 bb

[msstate7]

Muller gave up a 3-spot in the 1st inning, but he's gone 4 scoreless since...

5.0 ip 3 h 3 er 0 bb 7 k

Really like the nice rebound, and love the 0 bb

Make it 6 ip

[msstate7]

Robertson day off the same day gosselin is starting. Could be an audition for gosselin today.
Could be nothing but a day off, but that isn't interesting

Deshields starting at 2b today

[msstate7]

Muller out after 99 pitches...
6.2 ip 3 h 3 er 0 bb 8 k
Season era at 3.00

Interesting that he was pulled with 1 out to go in 6th. Could they be thinking of saving his arm for Atlanta?

[The Chosen One]

Muller out after 99 pitches...
6.2 ip 3 h 3 er 0 bb 8 k
Season era at 3.00

Interesting that he was pulled with 1 out to go in 6th. Could they be thinking of saving his arm for Atlanta?

Wright has never pitched a full season. And snit seems to like extending him to 100 pitches without thinking about how it might affect his arm down the line.

same goes for strider. Snit is maxing their arms out now for some reason.

[msstate7]

Wright has never pitched a full season. And snit seems to like extending him to 100 pitches without thinking about how it might affect his arm down the line.

same goes for strider. Snit is maxing their arms out now for some reason.

Probably not a bad idea to work in a ynoa/muller start in for wright and strider some the next month

[msstate7]

Waters' overall numbers have crashed, but he's made tremendous improvement in k rate, 26.3% now. He's having a good day today, so maybe he's about to be on the right track

[msstate7]

Milligan and Malloy are having great seasons at Rome. Are they just benefiting bc of college experience or are they real prospects?

[msstate7]

Grissom 2-5, 2b
Now hitting .296 with .845 ops
He's at 2b today BTW

[zbhargrove]

Milligan and Malloy are having great seasons at Rome. Are they just benefiting bc of college experience or are they real prospects?

Malloy is certainly a prospect. Milligan is tougher because he’s been around longer and hasn’t really had sustained success until this year

[zbhargrove]

3.2 bWAR through his first 2 seasons would suggest he was every bit a solid MOR over that span. He quickly lost it however. In ST 2019 he couldn't find the strike zone and got lit up when he did. They moved him to the pen and had a great season. Then was trash after that.

That’s all fine and dandy but even when he was “good” his peripherals were clear he was very lucky and not actually good

[CyYoung31]

Are people in 2022 really arguing whether Newcomb was ever a legit MLB starting pitcher.

[msstate7]

Guess it's according to what you look at. In 2018, his FIP and xFIP were 4+. His xwoba was .297 and his xERa was 3.71

ETA... enscheff (pretty smart dude) seems to put a lot of weight in xwoba for pitchers, so I lean toward not lucky in 2018. It was .306 in 2019.