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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post

    You take anything from Sturgs long post? I hope you did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    You take anything from Sturgs long post? I hope you did
    Of course because he’s a reasonable person. I still disagree with the overall premise of trump on his own is a drag because of who he is. He’s perceived by voters as a drag because of a coordinated and complicit media narrative. It did have a real effect but succumbing to it just facilitates figure hit campaigns marginalizing transformative candidates.

    The way elections are ran just happen to change after the populist transformative president won in the United States. If you don’t think that our elections have become ballot harvesting schemes because of the threat trump had to the global order then we will just have to disagree.

    This whole narrative is forming to achieve what the goal was the second trump won the presidency. I love desantis and have never said anything remotely negative about him. I just see who is fully getting behind him and will remain skeptical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Of course because he’s a reasonable person. I still disagree with the overall premise of trump on his own is a drag because of who he is. He’s perceived by voters as a drag because of a coordinated and complicit media narrative. It did have a real effect but succumbing to it just facilitates figure hit campaigns marginalizing transformative candidates.

    The way elections are ran just happen to change after the populist transformative president won in the United States. If you don’t think that our elections have become ballot harvesting schemes because of the threat trump had to the global order then we will just have to disagree.

    This whole narrative is forming to achieve what the goal was the second trump won the presidency. I love desantis and have never said anything remotely negative about him. I just see who is fully getting behind him and will remain skeptical.
    The mass ballot harvest scheme was created in 2020 under President Trump. His support for lockdowns enabled it. His complete subservience to Fauci enabled it

    He was too weak or ineffective to stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    The counterpoint is Val Demmings was touted as a rising star in (D) and got smoked by Rubio by a similar margin. That state was about as purple as they come, but now looks as red as any.
    I think it's safe to say COVID pushed FLordia for now into a Solid Red State. Will be interesting to see at what cost though. I don't think we'll know for sure until 2028 if the migration to FLorida did damage to the Rs or not. And if there will be a second migration out of florida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    The mass ballot harvest scheme was created in 2020 under President Trump. His support for lockdowns enabled it. His complete subservience to Fauci enabled it

    He was too weak or ineffective to stop it.
    He wanted to open up in Easter of 2020. The system overwhelmed hkm unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    He wanted to open up in Easter of 2020. The system overwhelmed hkm unfortunately.
    The same system that DeSantis told to **** off.

    Trump actually criticized governor's for opening up too early.

    Trump bent over to.the system and the system ****ed him. Now we have the mass.ballot scheme that is an uphill battle thanks to Trump's ineptitude.

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    The way mail and other early voting helps the Dems is it allows them to concentrate their get out the vote operation on election day on the smaller subset of voters who have not yet voted.
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    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Amazing that Republicans have made history this mid-term, by severely underperforming as the opposition.

    Republican Revolution happened during Clinton's midterm.
    Bush gained seats in 2002 due to 9/11 high approvals.
    Obama got slaughtered in 2010, lost the Senate in 2014.
    Trump lost the House in 2018.

    Biden may end up picking up a Senate seat, and barely losing the House.

    GOP may have a 2-3 seat Majority in the House.
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    Ballot collection versus vote collection.

    It’s a completely new game now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Ballot collection versus vote collection.

    It’s a completely new game now.
    Lol, I am not looking forward to this doozy for the next 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    Lol, I am not looking forward to this doozy for the next 2 years.
    No doozy. Have to modernize and do what the Dems are doing. Doesn’t look like these awful election procedures and laws are going to change.
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    Dems with a huge win in Washington. There’s a non-zero chance the Rs win the House by one rep.

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    It's a Hobbesian world out there.

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    Some outlets starting to call NV for Cortez Masto after she recently took the lead. Looks like GA runoffs will be irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    Some outlets starting to call NV for Cortez Masto after she recently took the lead. Looks like GA runoffs will be irrelevant.
    I still want 51-49 rather than 50-50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    I still want 51-49 rather than 50-50.
    51-49 means you only have to appease one of Manchin or Sinema. Maybe neither if you can snag some more centrist Rs
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    Yep. This wouldn't be so bad if we weren't being forced to live under the most incompetent American government in history.


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