Not sure if it needed its own thread but didn't see whereelse to put it other than the MLB thread. Feel free to lock or delete mods
Not sure if it needed its own thread but didn't see whereelse to put it other than the MLB thread. Feel free to lock or delete mods
jpx7 (07-05-2022)
jpx7 (07-05-2022)
End of an era. I was really hoping Touki would turn into something. He and Newk had the same problem. Great stuff without any control. At least Touki seemed to have his head screwed on straight, which is why I was hopeful.
jpx7 (07-05-2022)
Touki Was always better than Newk. I think we screwed Touki up a bit. He improved as he spent time in each league then we started the yo-yo crap with him between AAA and the majors. I think he couldn’t just focus on pitching he always was being shuffled from pen to starting from majors to minors. I wish we had just left Touki alone to develop in AAA. He was still very young.
Coppy
There's literally nothing to support this. Newcomb must be to you like wright is to Cajun and Olson is to meOriginally Posted by bravesfanMatt
Newk was the same every step of the way. Touki and a 19/20/21 year old in the minors improved along the way as he moved along slowly. He also had more pitches and probably better overall stuff.
Coppy
I guess, but...
Newcomb 3.2 fWAR in 148 games
Touki -0.3 fWAR in 49 games
ETA...
Newcomb 3:0 bWAR
Touki -0.8 bWAR
Last edited by msstate7; 07-04-2022 at 04:47 PM.
148 to 49
That’s pretty significant lol
Touki has better stuff but they did have the same control issues
Ok, per game...
Newcomb 0.02 fWAR per game
Touki -0.01 fWAR per game
That's a considerable difference
I’m just relieved we’re finally starting to get closure on a lot of the John Regime’s top pitching prospects.
Forever Fredi
jpx7 (07-05-2022)
I loved both of them, and then I grew to hate both of them. Nothing is sadder than a pitcher with great talent that can't throw strikes
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