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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Since you're doing some research, look into CMS mandates, OSHA fines, nursing homes, national cemeteries, federal school systems, the cruise industry.

    Once finished let me know and I'll send a few others
    Got it - So you're going to compare what Biden did with an EO on the first day of his presidency versus the administrative state running their orgnaizations as they've always had.

    Figured it was something wishy washy.

    Oh well - Context/Context/Context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Got it - So you're going to compare what Biden did with an EO on the first day of his presidency versus the administrative state running their orgnaizations as they've always had.

    Figured it was something wishy washy.

    Oh well - Context/Context/Context.
    So wishy washy on this letter to the state of Washington...

    Trump White House to Washington
    12-20-20

    “Nursing homes must continue weekly testing of staff until all residents and staff are fully vaccinated.”

    “This surge must be met with aggressive public mitigation”

    Preventing a post-Christmas/Kwanzaa surge is critical through clear and continuous messaging: "To preserve our hospital system for you, we need you to wear masks, physically distance, wash hands, and avoid crowds and social gatherings beyond your immediate family.”

    “Mitigation measures to limit transmission in personal gatherings need ongoing strengthening. Continue to ask Washingtonians to limit travel, wear masks, physically distance, and avoid gatherings in both public and private spaces, especially indoors.”

    “Ensure all K-12 schools are following CDC guidelines, including masking”

    “Ensure all universities returning to in-person instruction after winter break move to mandatory weekly testing

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Got it - So you're going to compare what Biden did with an EO on the first day of his presidency versus the administrative state running their orgnaizations as they've always had.

    Figured it was something wishy washy.

    Oh well - Context/Context/Context.
    Back to my question of how much it would matter to you, you have answered that resoundingly with yet more excuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    So wishy washy on this letter to the state of Washington...

    Trump White House to Washington
    12-20-20

    “Nursing homes must continue weekly testing of staff until all residents and staff are fully vaccinated.”

    “This surge must be met with aggressive public mitigation”

    Preventing a post-Christmas/Kwanzaa surge is critical through clear and continuous messaging: "To preserve our hospital system for you, we need you to wear masks, physically distance, wash hands, and avoid crowds and social gatherings beyond your immediate family.”

    “Mitigation measures to limit transmission in personal gatherings need ongoing strengthening. Continue to ask Washingtonians to limit travel, wear masks, physically distance, and avoid gatherings in both public and private spaces, especially indoors.”

    “Ensure all K-12 schools are following CDC guidelines, including masking”

    “Ensure all universities returning to in-person instruction after winter break move to mandatory weekly testing
    Can you provide a link for this or is this just a tweet?
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    How about the Florida report, issued in November 2020

    "Florida must reestablish strong mitigation statewide with even further intensified mitigation in the counties with rising cases
    and hospitalizations," the Nov. 8 report states.

    "Mitigation efforts should continue to include wearing masks in public; physical distancing; hand hygiene; avoiding or eliminating the
    opportunities for maskless crowding in public, including bars, and eliminating all social gatherings beyond the immediate
    household ...

    The Nov. 15 and 22 reports, released Thursday, only increased the warnings and calls for more restrictions.

    "Florida is in the red zone," the Nov. 22 report states. "There is aggressive, rapid, and expanding community spread across the
    country. ... public spaces where masking is not possible must have a significant reduction in capacity or close."

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Can you provide a link for this or is this just a tweet?
    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...20#document/p1

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    HAHA - I knew it. Your X follows are predictable.

    Can you tell me what section these statements were under?

    Did Trump enforce any of these?

    WOW - WEAK WEAK SAUCE.

    Same exact thing as Biden issuing a EO day 1 forcing everyone to wear masks in every federal area. SAME EXACT THING!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    HAHA - I knew it. Your X follows are predictable.

    Can you tell me what section these statements were under?

    Did Trump enforce any of these?

    WOW - WEAK WEAK SAUCE.

    Same exact thing as Biden issuing a EO day 1 forcing everyone to wear masks in every federal area. SAME EXACT THING!!!
    Was it trumps white house recommendations or not?

    How about that Florida report?

    Why do you excuse away literally everything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Was it trumps white house recommendations or not?

    How about that Florida report?

    Why do you excuse away literally everything?
    Why do you act like a recommendation is a terrible thing?

    Why do you act like its the same thing as unilaterally enforcing mask mandates which I'm sure the Fauchis of the world pushed and Trump refused.

    Again - Everything you hated about the pandemic happened under Biden/leftist Govs and yet you blame Trump. Its cute....

    I remember a time you PRAISED Trump for respecting the consitution and letting hte states decide.

    Now you're screaming about.....RECOMENDATIONS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Why do you act like a recommendation is a terrible thing?

    Why do you act like its the same thing as unilaterally enforcing mask mandates which I'm sure the Fauchis of the world pushed and Trump refused.

    Again - Everything you hated about the pandemic happened under Biden and yet you blame Trump. Its cute....

    I remember a time you PRAISED Trump for respecting the consitution and letting hte states decide.

    Now you're screaming about.....RECOMENDATIONS!
    Well, for starters, the recommendations were for mandates.

    Secondly, Trump did enforce mandates in certain areas of the government. As I said, I'll post them once I'm back on my cpu.

    And as I said, it won't matter to you. You will excuse it away,as you did above by blaming the deep state

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Well, for starters, the recommendations were for mandates.

    Secondly, Trump did enforce mandates in certain areas of the government. As I said, I'll post them once I'm back on my cpu.

    And as I said, it won't matter to you. You will excuse it away,as you did above by blaming the deep state
    The stuff you brought to the table was weak sauce because as usual its from the former RDS influencers designed to damage Trump and lack any real context at all. I can't help it that you've become all too predicatble.

    I'll wait for your much better stuff showing Trump instututed cripling mandates even close to what Biden did when he took office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The stuff you brought to the table was weak sauce because as usual its from the former RDS influencers designed to damage Trump and lack any real context at all. I can't help it that you've become all too predicatble.

    I'll wait for your much better stuff showing Trump instututed cripling mandates even close to what Biden did when he took office.
    I'd be more sympathetic to Trump of he simply said "it was a time of uncertainty, we went with caution, and we've learned a lot and know better than to do that again"

    Instead, he says "we did everything right" and complains he doesn't get more credit for his response

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    3 illegal Immigrants in FL arrested for kidnapping and sexually assaulting a woman.
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    it is a real shame that the Trump team actually attempted to get this guy removed from Governor just last year, because America First, or something

    "I can't fix my life, but I can fix the world" said the socialist

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    Not a crisis.
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    How is deadly force not justified in this situation?

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    Can't you see the border agents waving them in? They were invited.
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    How is deadly force not justified in this situation?
    Only for Americans who wish to walk on public property

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    Can you imagine a scenario obrador says this when trump is president?
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