Can't help but to think the future revenues from the new stadium are going to help out when it opens.
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8/135 is a market value deal. Assume he makes about 25M or so in arb (may not be that high but just assuming say 5/8/12) that makes him 5/110 or so which is about market, Howard signed a 5/125 but had an MVP and big homer stats.
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Pretty much. However the one thing to keep in mind is that would be market value in 2014. If he were allowed to hit FA in the 2016/2017 off-season then the market value is going to be much higher. Add in the fact we are paying him through his prime and not after it like a lot of the other bigger deals for 1B then I consider this a win.
Too soon to start the Freeman for MVP bandwagon?
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With the important difference that the last guaranteed year of Howard's deal is his age 36 season, whereas Freeman's takes him through his age 31 season. Any deal has to be judged on the basis of future expected performance and the age difference is very important in that regard.
It is also worth noting that Howard signed his deal almost two full years before his prior deal was due to expire. So it had some of the risk/security tradeoffs of the kind of deals that players in their pre-free agency years agree to.
It is hard not to conclude that the Freeman contract is quite a bit more team-friendly than the one the Phillies gave to Howard.
A lot of the big contracts handed out in recent years are very long and cover a good chunk of the age 35-40 years of their careers. In effect the club holds down the AAV by being willing to include those declining years. They subsidize the payments in the prime years by overpaying in the declining years. Borrowing from the future for the present. None of those elements are involved in the Freeman deal since it ends with his age 31 season. That is a very big difference that needs to be taken into account when comparing with the contracts of Votto, Howard, Pujols, Fielder, Teixeira, Cano, etc. And there is no opt out clause either as with recent deals with Kershaw and Tanaka, which tilts things in favor of the player.
The fact that we're seeing mid and lower market teams be able to lock up players like Freeman, McCutchen and Goldschmidt is very good for the game. It is one of the reasons why even a very deep-pocketed team like the Yankees is struggling to compete. Not having a decent farm system is turning out to be a liability that even very deep pockets can't completely overcome.
Last edited by nsacpi; 02-04-2014 at 11:11 PM.
Well Howard's extension was signed inwhat was the equivalent of his last season of arb.
But he had the ROY and MVP. Which Freddie doesn't.
I'm not complaining about the Freddie deal, I love it. But it's not a bargain deal, it's a great signing because of his youth, but it's not like we Evan Longoria'd him.
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Well, I'm really happy with this. I just wanted at least one young player signed to a long term contract. I personally think Freeman is the least risky of all the young guys, so to me it's hard to complain that he was the one Wren chose. We have him through the entirety of his prime and to me that's a great thing. He's a marketable player and should provide us with consistent offense hopefully throughout his contract.
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