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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Wonder if San Diego would ask for TDA as an upgrade over Nola as part of any deal and what we might also seek in exchange for that.
    It would be hard to trade TDA to me. He’s probably the clear club house leader and will help get Murphy ready for the pitchers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    It would be hard to trade TDA to me. He’s probably the clear club house leader and will help get Murphy ready for the pitchers.
    I'd be hesitant to a degree, but I just don't think the clubhouse leader thing is a heavy factor for our front office. Freeman was viewed as a clubhouse leader, and we never offered the extra year that would have likely kept him here (not here to debate this for the 10,000th time). It was also clear that Dansby was viewed as an unofficial team captain, but we never were a serious factor when it became apparent he would get a contract beyond our comfort zone or what we deemed reasonable. So I don't think I'd mind pulling the trigger on a trade of him that would give us more defensive certainty at shortstop and possibly make it easier to trade Grissom in order to fix the revolving door in LF for at least 2-3 seasons. A better full-time LF, more established shortstop and perhaps a lesser backup catcher would be preferable to the current situation.

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    Kim would be a terrific get. Acuna RF - Harris CF - Riley 3B - Olson 1B - Murphy/d'Arnaud C - Ozzie 2B - Kim SS - d'Arnaud/Murphy DH - Ozuna/Rosario LF

    That's a really damn good lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I didn’t realize Kim was a 5 win SS last year.
    3.7 fWAR.
    he’d be a perfect fit. think it might take more than Anderson. i’d be hesitant to deal TDA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    3.7 fWAR.
    he’d be a perfect fit. think it might take more than Anderson. i’d be hesitant to deal TDA
    Yeah it may take another besides Anderson but who knows how the Pads view him. Kim makes a ton of sense here.

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    Kim would be a perfect fit for us. Prime of his career, pretty cheap, under control for a couple years. It makes too much sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Kim would be a perfect fit for us. Prime of his career, pretty cheap, under control for a couple years. It makes too much sense.
    Just not sure what we even have to give up that would allow us to land him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Just not sure what we even have to give up that would allow us to land him.
    I would think dealing off the top of whatever deck we have left. I'm indifferent about TDA although I like him a lot. Me thinks they'd want Anderson, another mlb'er or close and a high dart throw off the prospect list. Problem is they'd be dipping into the high recent draft pick column me thinks.

    They've already dealt heavily from the 2021 class, so I'm thinking a Dylan Dodd type. I'd hope they wouldn't entertain a Adam Shoemaker, Spencer Schwellenbach, or Smith -Shawver. Those are high dart potential studs. Got give to get I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Just not sure what we even have to give up that would allow us to land him.
    i wouldn’t be surprised if they wanted Wright for him, and i don’t think they’d be off-base asking for that. Wright was a nice surprise last year but i’m not totally bought in to him bring anything more than a good ~4. but he could also still
    improve and it would be a risky move. Anderson will require AA to add more.
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    i also think you’d be selling low on Anderson in that case which i don’t like. he isn’t as bad as he was last year and will turn it around. i don’t think he and Wright will be far apart in 2023. i would be fine keeping the pitching depth and using Arcia/Grissom at SS myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i also think you’d be selling low on Anderson in that case which i don’t like. he isn’t as bad as he was last year and will turn it around. i don’t think he and Wright will be far apart in 2023. i would be fine keeping the pitching depth and using Arcia/Grissom at SS myself.
    Kinda here also, but for Kim I wouldn't think twice if only because I think the trajectory of Anderson is quite a bit lower than Wright. I could be wrong though. I think if he had another solid offering to keep people off that straight fastball or consistently get the change over he'd improve.

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    It’d be a hard no on Wright. I’d deal Anderson but I wouldn’t add much to it bc he still has a lot of upside.

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    Did I miss any discussion on a Bauer for Ozuna trade possibility?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPawMaxwell View Post
    Did I miss any discussion on a Bauer for Ozuna trade possibility?
    No because there is no way the Dodgers would do it and no way the Braves would bring in Bauer with that baggage.

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    Is Ozuna's baggage any heavier than Bauer's? FWIW Dodgers (as of today) are more in need of a bat than Braves are of a pitcher. I doubt either team is anxious to dump multi millions of dollars because of bad press and misdemeanors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPawMaxwell View Post
    Is Ozuna's baggage any heavier than Bauer's? FWIW Dodgers (as of today) are more in need of a bat than Braves are of a pitcher. I doubt either team is anxious to dump multi millions of dollars because of bad press and misdemeanors.
    Why would the dodgers take the worse player back though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Why would the dodgers take the worse player back though.
    Because having Bauer even around is a drain on the clubhouse and the team images. They want to get rid of him for the same reason the Braves want nothing to do with him.

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    You do remember that Bauer's accuser had a go round with Tatis Jr dont you? Dont hear anyone from San Diego wanting to dump Tatis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPawMaxwell View Post
    You do remember that Bauer's accuser had a go round with Tatis Jr dont you? Dont hear anyone from San Diego wanting to dump Tatis.
    Yeah but she's also not accusing Tatis Jr of anal rape.

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    If the Dodgers are ready to release one of the best pitchers in baseball and still owe him north of $30 million and will take luxury tax penalties for paying him, I don't see why the Braves would go anywhere near him. And I don't know why the Dodgers would go anywhere near Ozuna. Even if the Braves wanted Bauer, the Dodgers wouldn't just hand him over to a top pennant competitor.

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