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    Anybody got any interest in Bellinger if the Dodgars end up DFA’ing him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyTrain View Post
    I don't think we sign Swanson.
    He'd have to take a discount to come back, i think. I think we have our offer in hand and i doubt AA will go way over to keep him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    Anybody got any interest in Bellinger if the Dodgars end up DFA’ing him?
    Sounds like he'd have a decent market if he gets DFA'd. I wouldnt mind him at all but seems unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Is Arcia good at ss?
    FG is projecting him for .249/.315/.407 and Swanson at .247/.309/.413 for 2023.

    Statcast shows Arcia with a much stronger arm than Swanson: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leade...&pos=&team=144

    Side note: it also shows that Grissom probably doesn't have the arm for SS, and is below MLB average even for 2B.

    We should know by now that arm strength doesn't make a SS (remember all the idiots clamoring for Camargo to be the SS?), and there isn't a ton of recent data for Arcia's work at SS. However, with the Brewers he ranged from below average to above average, so I would estimate he's average or slightly below nowadays. Sprint speed isn't a direct measure of SS defensive skill, but it is a decent proxy for athleticism, and his 2022 sprint speed of 26.5 makes me think he will have below average range at SS. Then again, Andrelton isn't fast either (26.7) and he's still OK.

    I said this the moment the Braves acquired Arcia, but he always struck me as the backup short term plan at SS. He represents a potentially MLB average bat with average or worse SS defense at a cost of $1.5M. Not exciting, but for a team with very little cap room and a 93+ win projection, he might be the smart play.

    Or....AA blows past the cap. Who knows?
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    Braves sign Matzek to a 2-year/$3.1 million deal with a $5.5 million club option for 2025.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Braves sign Matzek to a 2-year/$3.1 million deal with a $5.5 million club option for 2025.
    Hey Tyler, we really appreciate you blowing your shoulder out for us to win a WS. Here's 3 million for our appreciation

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Hey Tyler, we really appreciate you blowing your shoulder out for us to win a WS. Here's 5 million for our appreciation
    Shoulder AND elbow.
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    What's your most likely in order to bounce back/fall off in 2023?

    Acuna to mvp level
    Rosario to good rhp hitter
    Ozuna to good hitter
    Matzek to previous couple years
    Yates to SD level
    Olson to 2021 level
    Contreras to 2021 level
    Morton to 3.5 fWAR or better

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    What's your most likely in order to bounce back/fall off in 2023?

    Acuna to mvp level
    Rosario to good rhp hitter
    Ozuna to good hitter
    Matzek to previous couple years
    Yates to SD level
    Olson to 2021 level
    Contreras to 2021 level
    Morton to 3.5 fWAR or better
    Well the fact that Matzek had TJS after the season and will miss all of 2023, i'm betting he finishes last in that order.
    Get off my lawn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    Well the fact that Matzek had TJS after the season and will miss all of 2023, i'm betting he finishes last in that order.
    It will improve on 2022 though

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Hey Tyler, we really appreciate you blowing your shoulder out for us to win a WS. Here's 3 million for our appreciation
    worth it for me. Earned all of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    What's your most likely in order to bounce back/fall off in 2023?

    Acuna to mvp level
    Rosario to good rhp hitter
    Ozuna to good hitter
    Matzek to previous couple years
    Yates to SD level
    Olson to 2021 level
    Contreras to 2021 level
    Morton to 3.5 fWAR or better

    Acuna
    Morton
    Olson
    Rosario
    Ozuna
    Yates
    Contreras
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    Yates velo ain't what it used to be.

    He's sitting low to low middle 90's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    Anybody got any interest in Bellinger if the Dodgars end up DFA’ing him?
    Absolutely. But so will a bunch of other teams. He plays CF very well and still carries a good bit of upside at only 26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    FG is projecting him for .249/.315/.407 and Swanson at .247/.309/.413 for 2023.

    Statcast shows Arcia with a much stronger arm than Swanson: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leade...&pos=&team=144

    Side note: it also shows that Grissom probably doesn't have the arm for SS, and is below MLB average even for 2B.

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    I said this the moment the Braves acquired Arcia, but he always struck me as the backup short term plan at SS. He represents a potentially MLB average bat with average or worse SS defense at a cost of $1.5M. Not exciting, but for a team with very little cap room and a 93+ win projection, he might be the smart play.

    Or....AA blows past the cap. Who knows?
    Not that I necessarily disagree, but I thought I read where arm strength is harder to measure from the right side of the diamond due to so few throws at max effort/having their momentum going the opposite direction most of the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    Yates velo ain't what it used to be.

    He's sitting low to low middle 90's.
    Worried a little about Yates next year but we probably have no problem but to pitch him next year given his salary.

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    Glad to see we took care of Matzek. 1.5 this year and next with the hope he returns to form is a good bet. 5.5 mil club option in 25 could be a bargain if he bounces back as well. Decline it if he's cooked. Wonder if we re-sign Luke Jackson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Glad to see we took care of Matzek. 1.5 this year and next with the hope he returns to form is a good bet. 5.5 mil club option in 25 could be a bargain if he bounces back as well. Decline it if he's cooked. Wonder if we re-sign Luke Jackson?
    Forgot all about Luke. When is he expected to be healthy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Forgot all about Luke. When is he expected to be healthy?
    He should be fine by April/May. He had TJ in April.

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    Bellinger officially non-tendered by LA, per Ken. Interested to see where he ends up. Might go back to LA on a cheaper deal but things have may have soured there.

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