Official official offseason thread

[Tapate50]

What happens with Grissom becomes much less critical with even small bounce back performances from Ozuna and Rosario.

If all three bomb, we are in trouble. If two of the three are average or better, we should be fine.

And Ronnie and Ozzie.

[zbhargrove]

I will take being mediocre there this season. I would think the braves just need him to not be a liability

I also think that will be fine… I was just responding to the post

[striker42]

I was digging into Anderson's spin rates in comparison to the rest of the league and it's ugly. Of the 325 pitchers to throw curves and record at least 100 PAs, Anderson's spin rate was 324th. A measly 1874 RPMs. Since the start of 2020, Anderson's curve ranks 859th out of the 870 pitchers who have thrown curves and recorded at least 100 PAs. That's 1.3 percentile.

In order to get into the top half of the league in spin rate on a slider last year, you'd need 2,422 RPMs. None of the 21 pitchers who had a curve spin rate under 2,100 RPMs last year had a slider in the top half of the league in spin rate. Of the bottom 100 pitchers in curve spin rate, only 5 had sliders in the top half of the league in spin (67 of the bottom 100 in curve spin threw sliders as well).

To be in the top half of the league in curveball spin rate you'd need 2,465 RPMs. None of the top 25 in slider RPM last year had a curve ball with a spin rate under 2,500 RPMs. Only 9 of the top 100 in slider spin rate had curves that ranked in the bottom half of curve spin rate (60 of the top 100 threw both pitches).

Since the start of 2020, 35 pitchers have averaged a curve with a spin rate under 2,000 RPMs. None of them have a slider averaging 2,400 RPMs or better.


I say all this to show there's a strong correlation between slider and curveball spin rates. It makes sense as they're both breaking balls with similar grips. Considering how heinously bad Anderson's curveball spin rate is, I see no chance his slider is even league average. Unless he's a crazy outlier, we're looking at a fringy pitch at best. Another fringy breaking ball isn't going to change Anderson's results.

[atl717]

Agreed. Combined with the fact he throws over the top and the command sucks that slider isn’t changing who he is. Make some sort of leap with the command and maybe he’s decent. But his changeup and fastball both took steps back last year, it wasn’t just the command that failed him.

[Carp]

Grissom had a career .867 OPS in the minors. Kid can hit. Expecting him to put up low .700s OPS like Dansby did for most of his career is not a stretch by any means.

I don't know what his EVs were in the minors, but he's gonna have to drastically improve his EV and/or his BB rate. I predict he's gonna struggle pretty hard this year.

[atl717]

His Max EV is on par with Dansby. He’s gonna be fine. He’s got plus contact ability. He’s a more talented hitter than Dansby ever was. He will need to learn to be a little more selective and choose pitches he can drive and not just pitches he can put in play. That’s where the low EVs come from.

He showed good plate discipline in the minors. I think there’s no concerns with the bat. It’s all about defense.

[Tapate50]

We still got Turner Field in the banner on this site. We are doomed already

[Hudson2]

Padres and Machado agree to 11 year 350 deal

[chop2chip]

Padres and Machado agree to 11 year 350 deal

This is a perfect example why opt outs provide zero benefit for the team. Padres have to know Manny only has 5 or so good years left but they have to tack on an extra 6 years because they threw in a player option.

When Machado signed with the Padres, it was late in the offseason and his market was shrinking. The Padres gave him more than anyone projected, so it’s confusing why they felt the need to throw in a player option.

Machado is amazing and will likely be really good for the next few seasons. But he’s also big bodied with an injury history.

[Hudson2]

This is a perfect example why opt outs provide zero benefit for the team. Padres have to know Manny only has 5 or so good years left but they have to tack on an extra 6 years because they threw in a player option.

When Machado signed with the Padres, it was late in the offseason and his market was shrinking. The Padres gave him more than anyone projected, so it’s confusing why they felt the need to throw in a player option.

Machado is amazing and will likely be really good for the next few seasons. But he’s also big bodied with an injury history.

I don’t get why teams are giving out 11 year deals to a 30 year old. They are guaranteeing the back end of that deal is gonna be brutal.

[Heyward]

Preller probably wont even be GM when those contracts are on the backend. Going for it right now.

[Hudson2]

Do they even have the money for what Soto is gonna command? He’ll be the highest paid in baseball.

[chop2chip]

Do they even have the money for what Soto is gonna command? He’ll be the highest paid in baseball.

We’ll see what’s possible next winter with Ohtani.

[Heyward]

Do they even have the money for what Soto is gonna command? He’ll be the highest paid in baseball.

They're already all in lol, why not.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Twins claim Dennis Santana
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/...s-santana.html

[Hudson2]

We’ll see what’s possible next winter with Ohtani.

Ohtani will be the marker that Soto is gonna be at. Soto will be 25, I could see him getting a 15 year deal from somebody.

[striker42]

Ohtani will be the marker that Soto is gonna be at. Soto will be 45, I could see him getting a 15 year deal from somebody.

FIFY

[bravesfanMatt]

FIFY

ah, the ol' classic old man soto joke.. will never get tired of it personally.

[Enscheff]

Preller probably wont even be GM when those contracts are on the backend. Going for it right now.

This is it in a nutshell. Most GMs don’t have to worry about the backend of deals they sign.

[UNCBlue012]

Do they even have the money for what Soto is gonna command? He’ll be the highest paid in baseball.

According to reports, yes. They're ALL in.