It Is The Guns

[Jaw]

when you read Assault rifles, you automatically know you aren't dealing with anyone with any sense.

Language of the Programmed

[sturg33]

Language of the Programmed

To be fair those guns do look really scary

[Tapate50]

To be fair those guns do look really scary

Mostly plastic, but the color is super scary.

[cajunrevenge]

Over the last 20 years we have proven time and time again we haven’t parented worth a ****.

We haven’t taught kids how to deal with rejection, anger, and reality.

They cry out and no one does anything about it. Most times these people have told someone they are going to do something bad and no one reports it.

I agree but we cant exactly legislate good parenting. The foster system is 49% people looking to profit off the kids, 49% pedophiles who want a vulnerable child they can abuse, and 2% good people who actually care. With the exception of sexual abuse it's almost always more damaging to the child to take them from their biological parents.

[cajunrevenge]

Ok.

If outlawed only criminals will have them.

Until you guarantee bad guys don’t have them, I’ll hold on to mine. Thanks

I agree. It would take 20 years to get rid of the guns that flood this country but that would stop 99% of these shootings. I admittedly don't know a lot about guns but I can't see any reason people need guns like AR-15s. If we banned weapons like that people could still do these shootings but the victims would stand a much better chance to survive and the cops would have an infinitely easier time putting them down. I think some kind of system where after so many years of responsible gun ownership you get to buy whatever you would classify am AR-15 as would be a good idea. Also think there should be law making people liable if someone use their gun for a shooting unless it's stolen by someone they don't know. So if you leave your AR-15 sitting around and your kid uses it to shoot up the school that parent would be criminally liable.




One thing that I dont hear talked about enough is how these mass shootings are happening because these people want attention. They see the big deal made about it on TV and that's what motivates a lot of them to do it. We could probably save a lot of lives by stopping this hyper focus on the shooter. Anyone that really wants to know can find that person's identity online, don't give the shooter the attention they want.

[57Brave]

"Let's be clear: No child should ever live in fear of being shot for ringing the wrong doorbell.

Every child deserves to be safe. That’s the America we are fighting for."

[57Brave]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1648453943259955206

[sturg33]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1648453943259955206

Powerful!

But outside of banning all guns, quite useless

[cajunrevenge]

"Let's be clear: No child should ever live in fear of being shot for ringing the wrong doorbell.

Every child deserves to be safe. That’s the America we are fighting for."

And they released this guy saying they couldnt arrest him without a victim statement or forensic evidence has been gathered. I would think shooting someone for the crime of ringing his doorbell is the prime example of a danger to the community.

[Tapate50]

And they released this guy saying they couldnt arrest him without a victim statement or forensic evidence has been gathered. I would think shooting someone for the crime of ringing his doorbell is the prime example of a danger to the community.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ral...-23/index.html

Hmmm

[Jaw]

Mostly plastic, but the color is super scary.

Racist

[Jaw]

And they released this guy saying they couldnt arrest him without a victim statement or forensic evidence has been gathered. I would think shooting someone for the crime of ringing his doorbell is the prime example of a danger to the community.

Yeah this is crazy.

[cajunrevenge]

The right wing's favorite convicted murderer turned out to be a pedo. lol

[Tapate50]

Oj?

[Tapate50]

Side bar-

There’s no way every public figure is a pedophile.

I can’t sit here and believe that.

Someone is planting that stuff.

[cajunrevenge]

I can certainly buy the CIA using child porn to "Get rid of people". Its way to easy to plant and it is atleast a social death penalty. If the "deep state" was actually trying to get Trump thats how they would do it imo.

[57Brave]

By Mike Baker and Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs
April 25, 2023


Washington State approved a package of gun control measures on Tuesday that includes a ban on the sale of military-style semiautomatic weapons, making it the ninth state to join efforts to prevent the distribution of AR-15s and other powerful rifles often used in mass shootings.

The new laws put Washington in the ranks of states with the strongest gun control measures in the nation. They include a 10-day waiting period on gun purchases, gun safety training requirements and a provision allowing the state attorney general and consumers to sue gun manufacturers or dealers under public nuisance laws if they negligently allow their guns to fall into the hands of minors or “dangerous individuals.”

Gun rights proponents swiftly filed a lawsuit to challenge the semiautomatic rifle ban, saying it infringed on Second Amendment rights.

Washington is among a series of states, largely led by Democrats, that have advanced gun legislation this year as the nation continues to grapple with repeated mass shootings. Republicans have moved in the opposite direction, with lawmakers in several states introducing legislation to expand the ability to carry concealed weapons without a permit and eliminate such things as gun-free zones, background checks and red-flag laws, which allow the removal of guns from people deemed to be at high risk of violence or self-harm.

About half of all states now allow people to carry a handgun without a permit, up from 16 states in 2020.

AR-15-style rifles have been a particular point of concern among gun control proponents as they have often been the weapon of choice in mass shootings. The high-capacity firearms can fire rounds at a greater velocity than a handgun, resulting in more severe injuries.

In signing the new laws, Gov. Jay Inslee said there was no legitimate purpose for such weapons.

“These weapons of war, assault weapons, have no reason other than mass murder,” Mr. Inslee said. “Their only purpose is to kill humans as rapidly as possible in large numbers.”

In 1994, as a congressman representing rural areas in Washington, Mr. Inslee voted for a federal assault weapons ban — a vote he said contributed to his re-election loss later that year. That ban passed but expired in 2004 and has never been renewed.

Last summer, in the months after a young gunman used an AR-15-style rifle to fatally shoot 19 children and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill that would have reinstated the federal ban, but it stalled in the Senate.


The new laws in Washington State follow similar bans in other liberal-leaning states and Washington, D.C. Some states, such as California, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts, have had such a prohibition on the books for decades, and Maryland has banned the weapons since 2013. But as the number of high-profile mass shootings continues to escalate, several more states have enacted bans.

Illinois adopted a ban in January, and Delaware passed a similar law last year. Hawaii has banned so-called assault pistols with certain features since 1992 but does not ban military-style rifles.

Colorado lawmakers introduced a similar ban last month, but the House bill failed to make it out of committee after three Democrats voted with Republicans to kill it, according to local media reports.

All of the bans currently in place allow people to keep weapons previously purchased, but states vary on how those so-called legacy weapons are regulated, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

The new laws enacted in Washington join a series of other gun control measures that have been adopted in the state in recent years. In 2018, voters approved an initiative that raised the age for purchasing military-style rifles to 21 and created an enhanced background check system for those guns that included a 10-day waiting period.

The new legislation now requires a 10-day waiting period for purchasing any kind of gun. While several states require waiting periods, only California and Hawaii require a full 10 days. Washington is one of nine states that require gun buyers to provide proof of training.

Legislation allowing lawsuits against private parties for negligent sales has now been passed in five states.

Representative Liz Berry, a Democratic lawmaker in Washington who sponsored one of the new bills, said she ran for office three years ago because she was angry over the number of people affected by gun violence. She said the new waiting period was critical to prevent guns from being used by people in crisis; training requirements, she said, can help people learn about safe weapons handling and how to keep guns away from children.

Ms. Berry noted that students in Washington had engaged in recent protests to persuade lawmakers to take action to end gun violence.

“We see you. We hear you,” Ms. Berry said. “And, today, we are doing something about it.”

[cajunrevenge]

Personally I need an AK 47 to hunt deer. I am a really bad shot.

[Tapate50]

Cajun - That may be your problem. The 7.62 isn’t considered an accurate round at any type of range over gimmes

[sturg33]

By Mike Baker and Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs
April 25, 2023


Washington State approved a package of gun control measures on Tuesday that includes a ban on the sale of military-style semiautomatic weapons, making it the ninth state to join efforts to prevent the distribution of AR-15s and other powerful rifles often used in mass shootings.

The new laws put Washington in the ranks of states with the strongest gun control measures in the nation. They include a 10-day waiting period on gun purchases, gun safety training requirements and a provision allowing the state attorney general and consumers to sue gun manufacturers or dealers under public nuisance laws if they negligently allow their guns to fall into the hands of minors or “dangerous individuals.”

Gun rights proponents swiftly filed a lawsuit to challenge the semiautomatic rifle ban, saying it infringed on Second Amendment rights.

Washington is among a series of states, largely led by Democrats, that have advanced gun legislation this year as the nation continues to grapple with repeated mass shootings. Republicans have moved in the opposite direction, with lawmakers in several states introducing legislation to expand the ability to carry concealed weapons without a permit and eliminate such things as gun-free zones, background checks and red-flag laws, which allow the removal of guns from people deemed to be at high risk of violence or self-harm.

About half of all states now allow people to carry a handgun without a permit, up from 16 states in 2020.

AR-15-style rifles have been a particular point of concern among gun control proponents as they have often been the weapon of choice in mass shootings. The high-capacity firearms can fire rounds at a greater velocity than a handgun, resulting in more severe injuries.

In signing the new laws, Gov. Jay Inslee said there was no legitimate purpose for such weapons.

“These weapons of war, assault weapons, have no reason other than mass murder,” Mr. Inslee said. “Their only purpose is to kill humans as rapidly as possible in large numbers.”

In 1994, as a congressman representing rural areas in Washington, Mr. Inslee voted for a federal assault weapons ban — a vote he said contributed to his re-election loss later that year. That ban passed but expired in 2004 and has never been renewed.

Last summer, in the months after a young gunman used an AR-15-style rifle to fatally shoot 19 children and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill that would have reinstated the federal ban, but it stalled in the Senate.


The new laws in Washington State follow similar bans in other liberal-leaning states and Washington, D.C. Some states, such as California, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts, have had such a prohibition on the books for decades, and Maryland has banned the weapons since 2013. But as the number of high-profile mass shootings continues to escalate, several more states have enacted bans.

Illinois adopted a ban in January, and Delaware passed a similar law last year. Hawaii has banned so-called assault pistols with certain features since 1992 but does not ban military-style rifles.

Colorado lawmakers introduced a similar ban last month, but the House bill failed to make it out of committee after three Democrats voted with Republicans to kill it, according to local media reports.

All of the bans currently in place allow people to keep weapons previously purchased, but states vary on how those so-called legacy weapons are regulated, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

The new laws enacted in Washington join a series of other gun control measures that have been adopted in the state in recent years. In 2018, voters approved an initiative that raised the age for purchasing military-style rifles to 21 and created an enhanced background check system for those guns that included a 10-day waiting period.

The new legislation now requires a 10-day waiting period for purchasing any kind of gun. While several states require waiting periods, only California and Hawaii require a full 10 days. Washington is one of nine states that require gun buyers to provide proof of training.

Legislation allowing lawsuits against private parties for negligent sales has now been passed in five states.

Representative Liz Berry, a Democratic lawmaker in Washington who sponsored one of the new bills, said she ran for office three years ago because she was angry over the number of people affected by gun violence. She said the new waiting period was critical to prevent guns from being used by people in crisis; training requirements, she said, can help people learn about safe weapons handling and how to keep guns away from children.

Ms. Berry noted that students in Washington had engaged in recent protests to persuade lawmakers to take action to end gun violence.

“We see you. We hear you,” Ms. Berry said. “And, today, we are doing something about it.”

How long before we can expect to see that this makes a difference?