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    That is off topic.
    Focus Grasshopper.

    If I was interested in voicing an opinion on that subject would go to appropriate place

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    Well it's not when you're complaining about support for mental health care. What do you define as mental health care?

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    What gets me about this whole debate is the almost dogmatic belief people have that their solution will significantly improve things in spite of having almost no evidence supporting them.

    Step 1 needs to be evidence gathering. We need to fund investigations into gun violence and find out what's going on. What are the warning signs? What things increase the risk? What has been tried that has been effective and what hasn't? Etc.

    The worst thing we can do is go off half cocked, pass measures based on ideology (regardless of the ideology), and spend all the political capital for no impact.

    The real tragedy here is that no one disputes there's a problem but it has become so politicized that we can't even investigate the issue to try to figure out the best course of action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Well it's not when you're complaining about support for mental health care. What do you define as mental health care?
    you are right .
    I don't know what is on the table.
    But, for those that politically say (GOP) it is not guns it is mental health
    well, the CSPAN graphic speaks politically to their sincerity.

    I don't care about nor spend any time forming an opinion on what you brought up, so I have no opinion .
    You do. I don't share your interest
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    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Shannon Watts
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    The U.S. self-reported rate of mental health distress is similar to Canada’s (27%) and Sweden’s (24%). And yet…

    Annual gun homicides:
    Canada: 300
    Sweden: 60
    United States: 15,500

    It’s the guns.



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    To what extent, if any, should we blame the shooter?

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    How is that gun free zone going in Chicago
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    How is that gun free zone going in Chicago
    The gun deaths in Chicago this year alone are more than all the mass shootings from Texas that 57 posted.

    it is really bizarre how much leftists do not seem to be bothered by those
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    Democrats should take an alternate approach and legalize having guns in social clubs in Florida and Trump rallies specifically. Guns don't kill people and make us safer so there is no doubt this will make those places safer.
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    it's even dumber to think the gun violence in Chicago doesn't bother people lol


    cosplaying patriots having fantasy boners of revolution and killing people in the country stops any progression of any real change here to help stop gun violence from happening

    and even the bull**** excuses they say are the problems, don't get addressed either

    so we just do nothing and hope it isn't our turn to die from gun violence in this country
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    The New York Times
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    “Some people say it’s not the gun that shoots the bullet but a man,”

    Serbia’s president, Aleksandar Vucic, said. “But if that man doesn’t have a gun,

    the evil in his head can’t do any harm.”



    https://nyti.ms/3I7TbZf
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    The New York Times
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    “Some people say it’s not the gun that shoots the bullet but a man,”

    Serbia’s president, Aleksandar Vucic, said. “But if that man doesn’t have a gun,

    the evil in his head can’t do any harm.”



    https://nyti.ms/3I7TbZf
    To what extent, if any, are you willing to blame the man shooting the gun?

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    Shannon Watts
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    BREAKING: There are reports of a mass shooting on Hollywood Beach

    in Florida. According to CBS, at least seven people were shot and some

    of the victims are young children.

    Permitless carry became law in the state in April.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    That's tragic.

    Not nearly as many people shot in Chicago this weekend, but tragic nonetheless.

    It's not the guns

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    the people in Chicago were shot with a ham sandwich ?
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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    Probably. Folks in Chicago have tried to shoot eat other with everything
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    Sadly the pharma industry will ensure this never happens


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    I agree that the second amendment is clear as day. I dont think places like Chicago with strict gun control laws are examples of gun control not working because it cant work so long as theres a flood of guns all around the country. Only a national gun control policy would work. It would take 10-20 years to get rid of enough guns to fully take effect but it would work to cut down on 95%+ of gun violence. That doesnt mean we have to make it illegal for anyone to own anything thats a gun. There just isnt enough support for that to overturn a constitutional amendment. I accept that but what angers me is all this BS some people push as solutions. Like people who say school shootings happen because "god" isnt allowed in schools. Just come out and say what you really mean people. "I dont care how many kids have to die in schools I aint giving up muh guns" is atleast honest. Dont send your thoughts and prayers like it helps any damn person.
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    Brian Krassenstein
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    BREAKING: A mass shooting has taken place outside of a Richmond, Virginia High School Graduation celebration.

    Details:

    - 7 shot outside the Altria Theater in Richmond, Virginia

    - The shooting took place in Monroe Park after the Huguenot High School graduation

    - 2 suspects have been arrested

    - 3 suffered life-threatening injuries and 4 non-life-threatening

    - 6 others were injured in the aftermath of the shooting, including 2 who fell, 1 who was hit by a car, and 3 who were treated for anxiety.

    I think we can all agree, Democrat and Republican, that these shooting must be stopped.

    The only disagreement is how we stop them. Please fix this America! Work together on sensible laws.
    The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.

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