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    Quote Originally Posted by chopdrew View Post
    If you wanna keep McCann be ready to say goodbye to at least one of Freddie/jason. And Kimbrel. Not only do I not think he's back, I don't think the braves are all that cocerned w bringing him back...
    Not really

    I mean if he signs for 4 years, his end years will be not too far past the end of Jason, Justin and Freddie's contracts. So some normal light backloading can keep them around.

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    Very unlikely unless he took a team-friendly deal to stay.

    I'm sure some AL team (Yankees, Rangers, Red Sox) to name a few will offer him more than we could.

    I'd do 3 years, 8-10 million in AAV but unlikely he'd accept that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Very unlikely unless he took a team-friendly deal to stay.

    I'm sure some AL team (Yankees, Rangers, Red Sox) to name a few will offer him more than we could.

    I'd do 3 years, 8-10 million in AAV but unlikely he'd accept that.
    Really 3/30? That's the most you'd go? Really??

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    If mac woukd go three years id pay 15. That fourth or fifth year is 2hat worries me. I think he'll have a five year deal on the table if he test FA. If the arod story is true the Yankees will throw moneh at Mac.

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    I think the market will be 4 years for 15M/year. Might be a little higher. Might be a little lower. Do you sign him for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I think the market will be 4 years for 15M/year. Might be a little higher. Might be a little lower. Do you sign him for that?
    4/60? Yes, but I think he may sign for less. Like 4/48 with a vesting 5th year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    4/60? Yes, but I think he may sign for less. Like 4/48 with a vesting 5th year.
    Mac won't take 12 in this market. Maybe 13.5. 14 definitely gets it done.

    You guys have to realize the major inflation going on in player contracts these days... 12 million is a lot for us, but it's also chump change for teams now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BravesFanInSAV View Post
    Mac won't take 12 in this market. Maybe 13.5. 14 definitely gets it done.

    You guys have to realize the major inflation going on in player contracts these days... 12 million is a lot for us, but it's also chump change for teams now.
    Mac may be willing to sign to keep us competitive. If there's a player on this team who I think would be kept for a deal it would be him. Georgia native, Gamily in the area, wife in the area, presumably wife's family is from the area, area charities, so on so forth. He may choose to leave but I don't think he'll demand top dollar like Druw after 2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BravesFanInSAV View Post
    Mac won't take 12 in this market. Maybe 13.5. 14 definitely gets it done.

    You guys have to realize the major inflation going on in player contracts these days... 12 million is a lot for us, but it's also chump change for teams now.
    Scary thing is that the Yankees and Dodgers need a catcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Scary thing is that the Yankees and Dodgers need a catcher.
    Yankees yes, Dodgers no. A.J. Ellis is solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Scary thing is that the Yankees and Dodgers need a catcher.
    And Tigers and Rangers. None of these are financially hampered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Really 3/30? That's the most you'd go? Really??
    Ok fine, 3/45, with a 4th-year option.

    I worry how he'll age.

    IF, IF the NL got the DH, absolutely i'd offer him a longer deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If mac woukd go three years id pay 15. That fourth or fifth year is 2hat worries me. I think he'll have a five year deal on the table if he test FA. If the arod story is true the Yankees will throw moneh at Mac.
    They might regardless.

    Their C situation is absolutely awful.

    They also have Pettitte, Kuroda, Granger, Mo, possibly Jeter i think and others deals expiring.

    But they also gotta pay the bank for Cano.

    Mac would rake in that park, and others in the AL.

    I expect some AL team to offer him a bigger deal than we could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I think the market will be 4 years for 15M/year. Might be a little higher. Might be a little lower. Do you sign him for that?
    I think it will be longer, mainly from an AL team who can DH him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTiger7222 View Post
    Yankees yes, Dodgers no. A.J. Ellis is solid.
    Ellis is solid but they could upgrade.

    God, this scares me, Dodgers also need a 2B, if they paid the bank for Cano...........

    Speaking of, wonder if we trade Kimbrel this winter, Dodgers could pay him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Ellis is solid but they could upgrade.

    God, this scares me, Dodgers also need a 2B, if they paid the bank for Cano...........

    Speaking of, wonder if we trade Kimbrel this winter, Dodgers could pay him.
    I don't understand why people keep talking about trading Kimbrel. It makes no sense.

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    Braves don't usually pay 8+ million for a reliever, even closers. But I do think they just keep going with his arby years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emk418 View Post
    I don't understand why people keep talking about trading Kimbrel. It makes no sense.
    Because the Braves historically don't spend much on their bullpen. One can't imagine them spending Mariano Rivera type money to keep Kimbrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTiger7222 View Post
    Because the Braves historically don't spend much on their bullpen. One can't imagine them spending Mariano Rivera type money to keep Kimbrel.
    We will have 2 years of relative inexpense from Kimbrel. He'll probably make a smidge more than Papelbon did year one and 2, if we trade him it will be before his arb 3 season and that's only if (JMO) we keep Mac or Justin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTiger7222 View Post
    Because the Braves historically don't spend much on their bullpen. One can't imagine them spending Mariano Rivera type money to keep Kimbrel.
    When was the last time we had a bullpen arm like Kimbrel? We never have. Smoltz was obviously dominant but he was old at the time with huge injury issues. I agree with not spending big on your bullpen but Kimbrel is the exception. We can save on the 6 other guys.

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