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Thread: Braves Sign Teheran to 6 year extension

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    Paid off big time being patient with Julio, maybe it will pay even more on this deal.
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    If the option year is just $12 million, then I assume the years before that will be cheaper, including the first FA season. If so, then I'm on-board. This is basically the Braves betting on their evaluation of Teheran, and the organization has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to evaluating pitching.

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    This was a perfect move. I know there is unpredictability with pitchers but I have believe Teheran would be a stud since he was signed. When comparisons like Pedro are thrown around at that age it catches your eye.
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    I also think it shows that Wren is doing everything he can to keep this core together.

    Now lets get a deal done for Simmons/Minor/Medlen/Heyward/Upton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    THATS AWESOME! if hes not worth the 12m at that point we can decline the option. I dont see that happening though. Kind of wish Minor would also be extended. If you were to extend Minor what numbers are we talking about.

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    These are the types of gambles you've gotta make when it comes to the payroll situation like ours. I like it.

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    Minor is further along so he would need more money. For a 6 year deal it would probably be 6/40-45 at least
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I also think it shows that Wren is doing everything he can to keep this core together.

    Now lets get a deal done for Simmons/Minor/Medlen/Heyward/Upton.
    From the info available I'm guessing the numbers look like this:

    2014: 500K
    2015: 600K
    2016: 4M
    2017: 6M
    2018: 9M
    2019: 11M
    2020: 12M option with 1M buyout

    Probably a small bonus up front.

    It is a good contract if he is a 2 WAR/year player or better. Pretty likely given he was a 2.4 WAR player last year.

    I've always felt the priority should be on Heyward, Freeman, Simmons rather than the pitchers. But this contract is pretty modest and should not preclude signing Heyward and Simmons later.

    There is some downside risk since any pitcher can regress or get hurt. But it is a reasonable risk to take given the upside. If Teheran develops it could be a Chris Sale type contract situation.
    Last edited by nsacpi; 02-14-2014 at 11:33 AM.

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    I bet we see a Simmons extension soon. Hopefully Minor and Upton would be next. Jason is gonna wait it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I bet we see a Simmons extension soon. Hopefully Minor and Upton would be next. Jason is gonna wait it out.
    It is easier to get an extension done on club friendly terms with guys like Teheran and Simmons who are not even in their arb years. Minor, Medlen and Upton will be more costly, significantly more costly. Makes me think they are much less likely to get extensions. I see Upton and Heyward as either or. We're not likely to hold on to both long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I bet we see a Simmons extension soon. Hopefully Minor and Upton would be next. Jason is gonna wait it out.
    I've heard that there have been discussions with Simmons on a long term deal, but I cannot verify that. I've got a feeling he will be next up though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    From the info available I'm guessing the numbers look like this:

    2014: 500K
    2015: 600K
    2016: 4M
    2017: 6M
    2018: 9M
    2019: 11M
    2020: 12M option with 1M buyout

    Probably a small bonus up front.

    It is a good contract if he is a 2 WAR/year player or better. Pretty likely given he was a 2.4 WAR player last year.

    I've always felt the priority should be on Heyward, Freeman, Simmons rather than the pitchers. But this contract is pretty modest and should not preclude signing Heyward and Simmons later.

    There is some downside risk since any pitcher can regress or get hurt. But it is a reasonable risk to take given the upside. If Teheran develops it could be a Chris Sale type contract situation.
    My worry is he might have TJ surgery one of those years.

    Remember they tried to change his mechanics to preserve him long term but they reverted back to his old mechanics.
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    This is the EXACT kind of contract a team with a middle of the pack payroll must make with young talent. The only way to get FA years for cheap is to guarantee the arb years for the player. The player gives up some potential FA money for financial security. If Julio turns into anything resembling an ace, this is the only way the Braves could keep him around past his 6 years of team control. This was a risk they had to take if they want to extend the competitive window.

    Guys like Medlen and Minor did not prove their floor was a solid starting pitcher until much later in their careers, so extending them when they are already in arb will be nearly impossible. There is an outside shot for a Minor extension though I imagine.

    Extending Simmons should be the top priority now.
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    One side effect of retaining Teheran for a year or two into his free agency years is it reduces the demands on the farm to produce a new starter every year. It makes it easier for the team to trade someone like Cabrera or Hursh if there are needs to be filled.

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    If he reaches that ace potential that's been projected, and he stays healthy, then it's a bargain. "Get 'em while they're young."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    My worry is he might have TJ surgery one of those years.

    Remember they tried to change his mechanics to preserve him long term but they reverted back to his old mechanics.
    Lets say he misses a full season somewhere in that period. The loss to the team is 2 WAR. So he would have to average 2.5 WAR in the other four years to make up the loss. There is some cushion built in here so it could still be a decent contract if he misses a full season. Still some risk of course. He could turn into a replacement level pumpkin. Stuff like that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I bet we see a Simmons extension soon. Hopefully Minor and Upton would be next. Jason is gonna wait it out.
    We can only hope.
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    Nice signing. I think it's cleart the guys the team is going after is Freeman, Teheran, Simmons. There is only so much money to go around. I think locking up Simmons and Minor next would be prudent.

    Its time to float Heywards name out there and gauge the interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Its time to float Heywards name out there and gauge the interest.
    Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Its time to float Heywards name out there and gauge the interest.
    Would create a hole in the outfield with no obvious replacement. Pretty big dropoff to Doumit and Terdoslavich. A free agent like Nelson Cruz would be inferior and more expensive.
    Last edited by nsacpi; 02-14-2014 at 12:05 PM.

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