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    Unserious criticism.

    (D) against choice because their most reliable constituency doesn’t want competition. That’s the whole thing.

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    Not at all.
    The concept is based on not wanting your white childen rubbing elbows with the coloreds. You can look that up.
    Some a that ol' time when America was great ( again)
    I've asked you before to invests little time to research the origins of the school choice issues and at least honestly understand the issue.
    But hey, MAGA gonna MAGA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Not at all.
    The concept is based on not wanting your white childen rubbing elbows with the coloreds. You can look that up.
    Some a that ol' time when America was great ( again)
    I've asked you before to invests little time to research the origins of the school choice issues and at least honestly understand the issue.
    But hey, MAGA gonna MAGA.
    Do you think people in 2024 want school choice because they don’t want their white children to run elbows with the coloreds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post

    (D) against choice because their most reliable constituency doesn’t want competition. That’s the whole thing.
    It is the issue where (D) orthodoxy is most problematic imo. They'd rather carry water for the teachers unions than adopt policies that improve educational outcomes.
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    But hey, MAGA gonna MAGA.
    Thethe claims I showed my true colors as a Biden supporter. Now I’m MAGA again. Maybe you guys can get together and let me know for sure what I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Do you think people in 2024 want school choice because they don’t want their white children to run elbows with the coloreds?
    Someone tell the blacks, who’s support for choice runs as high or higher than any other race.

    BTW, if (D) were standing on principle against choice because of its alleged racist origins, it makes me wonder why they are the most full-throated supporters of the minimum wage…

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    I know many post 2016 openly say as much!
    Many meaning many.
    One example is a locally growing rural community of home schoolers..

    Another is the " Christian" school
    They allow AA peole provided they run fast and/or jump high.

    I worked with a man 25-30 years ago that told the story of how in the early 70s his father organized the founding of "Christian " school over integration and the mixin̈g of black and white high schools
    forcing his sons be taught Geometry by a black woman.
    True.story, to this day thr school is a money maker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Do you think people in 2024 want school choice because they don’t want their white children to run elbows with the coloreds?
    Same reason we have swimming pools and hiking trails

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    Last I was told in 2021 is that math was racist. Why go at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Last I was told in 2021 is that math was racist. Why go at all?
    57s explicit preference is to keep black people in failed schools reading at a 1st grade level

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    Locally it’s treated as a daycare instead of a place
    To better yourself. It’s absolutely ruined the local public school system
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    I know many post 2016 openly say as much!
    Many meaning many.
    One example is a locally growing rural community of home schoolers..

    Another is the " Christian" school
    They allow AA peole provided they run fast and/or jump high.

    I worked with a man 25-30 years ago that told the story of how in the early 70s his father organized the founding of "Christian " school over integration and the mixin̈g of black and white high schools
    forcing his sons be taught Geometry by a black woman.
    True.story, to this day thr school is a money maker.
    The states with the highest private school attendance are pretty much all located in the north east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
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    Vouchers were created to keep White kids from going to school

    with Black kids after the Brown V Board decision.

    They were used to fund “segregation academies.”

    That racist legacy has never wavered.

    School vouchers are still a tool of segregationists.
    Well that's a straight up lie.

    School vouchers legitimately have had income limits until recently. Income limits would prevent most white kids from obtaining a voucher. They were literally designed for low income families to have access to better education and not be stuck sending their kid to school in the ****ty district where they live. Minority enrollment into private schools have increased DRAMATICALLY in states that allow school choice.

    But you know, don't let facts get in the way of a good lie.
    Last edited by Carp; 04-18-2024 at 01:39 PM.

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    Please define .Make America Great Again

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Please define .Make America Great Again
    One definition might be bring American educational outcomes back to levels we haven't seen since the creation of the dept of education

    Make America Smart Again

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    School choice predates “MAGA” by many decades

    Again, the dodging and attempted misdirections don’t change the fact that (D) is anti choice for the very simple reason that teachers unions are opposed to the competition. No need overcomplicate.
    Last edited by acesfull86; 04-18-2024 at 03:15 PM.

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    Many decades,??
    as in 60s Civil Rights and stopping segregation.

    As the example I passed on above.
    Then people saw (Devos etal) how to raid. and endgame privitize public education.

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    I mean doesn’t school choice imply they could just stay at the same schools ?
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    This is all recorded history

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Many decades,??
    as in 60s Civil Rights and stopping segregation.

    As the example I passed on above.
    Then people saw (Devos etal) how to raid. and endgame privitize public education.

    Minority enrollment in private education is up significantly in states the have started school choice programs.

    You going to address this or nah?

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