Had we won the arb hearing tomorrow which could have gone either way, he would have been paid $6.55MM, so now he will get just north of that or $7MM, so we pretty much locked in winning the arb hearing, and the $9MM in 2015 and $11MM in 2016 are best case scenarios for the Braves assuming we had won tomorrow, and they are now locked in as well. Then to get him for $13MM in both 2017 and 2018 just tops off this team friendly deal. Great job Wren!
Very reasonable deal. I love it!Originally Posted by thethe
IMO the best result of this extension is not the obvious one of being affordable for the foreseeable future but realistically he is now more attractive to some of the big market teams down the road and could bring an awesome return in trade should that become a move that the team would need to make.
No way Kimbrel is traded anymore.
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Hawk (02-16-2014)
IMO you're the only one on the planet thinking that way.
I know some on here don't like him, and I will agree that he hasn't been perfect and made a few questionable decisions throughout his tenure, but I absolutely love Frank Wren. I think he's done a really good job and has won more often than not in deals, and he held to his guns with not trading away this young core, and now keeping them.
It is. I do too. I didn't see this coming, mostly because I thought Kimbrel wanted to get paid starter money.
He can get a little run up in that fifth year if he's still an ultrastud. Heck of a nice deal.
Simmons, obviously. I'd also try to lock in Minor and Medlen.
I've liked Frank and his work all along. Other than Upton, I would've made all the deals he made, even the ones that came up snake eyes.
Stole this from @bravesmeme
Last edited by mossy; 02-16-2014 at 12:13 PM.
AUTiger7222 (02-16-2014)
This is absolutely the best deal this off season. No argument. But assume Kimbrel wins his arbitration at $9M,what would next year demand (assuming continued success) and no telling what he would get in 2016. That would mean the worse possible outcome for the Braves as a team and making him virtually untradable at any point to any team. Prior to today there is not way to predict any return on a $9M investment. Now IMO he is attractive to probably 2/3ds of the teams out there and affordable to them as well.
[QUOTE=thethe;78594]No way Kimbrel is traded anymore.[/QUOT
I remember the day when Harvey Kuenn was considered the best SS in baseball only to be traded away for a banged up Rocky Colavito.
Now we just find a manager who will use Craig when it matters.
I have never understood the Frank Wren hate. He's done a masterful job!
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With all of the attention that decision got, there's no way that happens again. If anything, I think he might end up overusing Kimbrel in the postseason in the future.
Gov, and I understand why he did what he did with the BJ deal. I loved the Uggla trade, just hasn't worked out and should have waited on extension.
My only major beefs with Wren was over the KK deal, I don't think that was a move or risk that needed to be made. And the other one was tex for kotch, should have taken the best deal possible no matter what positions the players or prospects involved played. But IMO, all the Tex mess is in JS who was an epic disaster the last decade of his tenure.
I had the same thought as PawPaw that this does make Kimbrel a trade possibility down the road. But maybe we are both crazy.
I like all the deals we're making.
I will say that the odd man out on all these deals is the one I wanted to lock up the most, but oh well. This is a solid core.
People question him because of the moves he makes that don't involve current Braves players. Uggla and BJ are the big ones.
I applaud him for getting the extensions done that he has in recent weeks. Generally he makes very solid trades as well. His flaw is free agent signings though and with a mid market budget those deals can really hurt the franchise.
While I agree with those that say we have no intention of trading, and I hope we don't, this is a valid and important point, because this team friendly deal gives the club another potential attractive option which is never a bad thing.
So 3 of us are crazy. That makes me feel better.
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