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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Yeah he's probably out all year next year after just going through TJS but I saw somewhere we have 5 years of control on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Perdomo is interesting. He's an absolute giant and he put up some good numbers in a little bit of a SSS for Pitt last year. Can't have too much pen depth.
    Great deal with Perdomo. OFS this year and out of options but the split contract takes care of that issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Seems like we are slowly filling that 40 man back up but glad White is now off the 40 man officially.
    He's off the 40-man, but he's still collecting his big coin.

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    I’m starting to think AA may be done for now. And I think that’s the best course of action- and here’s why:

    We walked away with the division last year and had one of the very best offenses of all time.
    This ‘24 team is now even better as it stands today.

    We did all of that (won all those games) without Fried for most of the year. We had to plug and play a whole pile of AAAA fifth starter fodder. This ‘24 pitching staff is even better today too- we have Max back, and the younger guys -such as AJSS -have had some experience to grow from.
    Assuming Max stays healthy, we have two TOR ace level pitchers in he and Strider. That leaves uncle Charlie as the three and the same pile of scraps we got by with last year. Gonna need to outscore a bunch of people- doesn’t seem like that should be a problem.

    So, we sit tight and then get a big time pitcher at the deadline when there should be several available as the bottom half of the league drops out- unless there are just zero guys whose contracts will be coming up (and I’m too lazy to look this up) that are playoff dependable playing on teams that won’t be in contention. We will just need one - and if AJSS or Waldrep or etc are ready, we might not even need one at all.
    And we can keep Grissom for infield insurance should someone get hurt.
    I’d much rather this course of non- action as opposed to trading our precious few pieces for Cease or etc.

    Said differently and succinctly, I don’t think we need to make a trade at all- certainly not until August.

    So let’s just head to Florida with what we got and let our farm keep developing- I’d rather our group of young stud pitchers stay in our organization ….would hate to see someone like Steve Avery develop for the White Sox… and I sure as hell don’t wanna blow our payroll and slam our window on Yama.
    just my two pennies.😎
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulavol View Post
    I’m starting to think AA may be done for now. And I think that’s the best course of action- and here’s why:

    We walked away with the division last year and had one of the very best offenses of all time.
    This ‘24 team is now even better as it stands today.

    We did all of that (won all those games) without Fried for most of the year. We had to plug and play a whole pile of AAAA fifth starter fodder. This ‘24 pitching staff is even better today too- we have Max back, and the younger guys -such as AJSS -have had some experience to grow from.
    Assuming Max stays healthy, we have two TOR ace level pitchers in he and Strider. That leaves uncle Charlie as the three and the same pile of scraps we got by with last year. Gonna need to outscore a bunch of people- doesn’t seem like that should be a problem.

    So, we sit tight and then get a big time pitcher at the deadline when there should be several available as the bottom half of the league drops out- unless there are just zero guys whose contracts will be coming up (and I’m too lazy to look this up) that are playoff dependable playing on teams that won’t be in contention. We will just need one - and if AJSS or Waldrep or etc are ready, we might not even need one at all.
    And we can keep Grissom for infield insurance should someone get hurt.
    I’d much rather this course of non- action as opposed to trading our previous few pieces for Cease or etc.

    So let’s just head to Florida with what we got and let our farm keep developing- I’d rather our group of young stud pitchers stay in our organization would hate to see someone like Steve Avery develop for the White Sox…
    just my two pennies.
    I will like our chances to repeat as division champs better if we sign Ohtani. Get it done AA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    He's off the 40-man, but he's still collecting his big coin.
    I get that… still don’t want him on the 40!

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    The one thing I want is another impact pitcher for the post season. We saw this year how big an impact that is in a short series. Having Morton as a number 4 starter in the playoffs would be an incredible luxury.

    Basically, we need to build for the playoffs, not for the regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    The one thing I want is another impact pitcher for the post season. We saw this year how big an impact that is in a short series. Having Morton as a number 4 starter in the playoffs would be an incredible luxury.

    Basically, we need to build for the playoffs, not for the regular season.
    Starting pitching wasn’t really the issue in the LDS for us. It was Snit not using a fully rested bullpen that had 5 days off between end of regular season and Game 1, then a day off between Game 1 and 2 and then another between 2 and 3.

    This is the same dude that said in May “if I keep using my best guys every night they won’t make it to October”.
    *Pretty much has all his best relievers available for LDS fully rested*

    and still opts to try and squeeze more innings out of Elder (and letting him pitch to Harper with men on) and then proceeds to use Tonkin because he’s trying to rest his best guys for what?!?!
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    If the plan really is to go with Lopez in the rotation, then I'd argue we need another high-end bullpen arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    Starting pitching wasn’t really the issue in the LDS for us. It was Snit not using a fully rested bullpen that had 5 days off between end of regular season and Game 1, then a day off between Game 1 and 2 and then another between 2 and 3.

    This is the same dude that said in May “if I keep using my best guys every night they won’t make it to October”.
    *Pretty much has all his best relievers available for LDS fully rested*

    and still opts to try and squeeze more innings out of Elder (and letting him pitch to Harper with men on) and then proceeds to use Tonkin because he’s trying to rest his best guys for what?!?!
    Elder shouldn't see the field in the playoffs except to eat innings in a blowout. That's why I want another impact starter.

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    Good point …. Somebody get Jessie Chavez on the horn….

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Elder shouldn't see the field in the playoffs except to eat innings in a blowout. That's why I want another impact starter.
    Funnily enough, snits best playoff managing came in 2020 and 2021 when we were short on starters and had to run bullpen games.

    Elder would have been fine as an opener or bulk innings guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    Funnily enough, snits best playoff managing came in 2020 and 2021 when we were short on starters and had to run bullpen games.

    Elder would have been fine as an opener or bulk innings guy.
    Yeah. Paired with someone like Lopez.
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    Lugo would be a big weapon come playoff time. I wonder if we could get him on a 2 year deal? Use Elder in a Glasnow trade. Fried, Strider, Glasnow, Morton, and Lugo would be rough on any team we face.

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    Would love to see a Bader signing for our 4th OF opening. Could be part a strong part of a 3 way platoon with Harris and JK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    Would love to see a iBader signing for our 4th OF opening. Could be part a strong part of a 3 way platoon with Harris and JK.
    Didn’t we already sign that fourth OF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    Would love to see a Bader signing for our 4th OF opening. Could be part a strong part of a 3 way platoon with Harris and JK.
    I don't know what the price on Bader would amount to, but I think he'd be a marked improvement over Pillar. Doesn't hit RHP that well and he's been banged up a bit over the last few years, but the guy can really go get it in the OF. He has extensive experience in CF with positive defensive marks there and that's valuable (at least to me).

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