Official 2024 Off-Season Thread!

[bravesnumberone]

It's become apparent to me that AA is planning on having a pen to unleash on teams in the postseason. Hopefully he (or whoever managed) the dodger series in 2021 takes over the postseason this year

That's all well and good, but have we all not watched enough baseball to know how volatile bullpens can be? There will certainly be injuries and certainly be underperformance. There are still plenty of guys that can be had and none of them will cost an amount that will shrink the contention window. There hasn't been one pitching contract signed this offseason that would shrink the Braves' contention window. Maybe seven years for Nola is a bit much and heartburn-inducing.

[msstate7]

Really? Because it seems like the exact same thing was said at last deadline, and again right now. How did that all work out?

You should tweet him

[Heyward]

This is a team who threw $55M at the BP, and something like $23M at a lottery ticket in LF. I find those facts hard to reconcile with the thought Bryce Elder and a BP arm, or AAAA fodder, will be relied upon as the 4 and 5 SPs.

AA must have another move up his sleeve.

That and he got rid of Wright, Shuster, and Soroka as SP depth as well, and he's replaced them with...... Looks around? Umm? Right now the only options for the 4-5 slots are AJSS, Elder, Vines, Winans, Waldrep isnt ready, maybe Lopez but i think he's better in a BP role.

We could probably get away with them given how deep the bullpen is but if something happens to anyone above that... Yikes. Do agree AA has to have a move for the rotation left or this offseason makes no sense.

[thewupk]

Lmao. Nobody said that. If you choose not to believe another Frontline starter is needed that's cool, but people can differ on how to get the ultimate prize while taking nothing away from AA.

I'd say a front line started is absolutely not needed for 2024

[thewupk]

Really? Because it seems like the exact same thing was said at last deadline, and again right now. How did that all work out?

About as good as our high octane offense ****ting the bed for 3 and a 1/2 games.

[Heyward]

Monty was like the only guy who got traded that would have made a difference. And unless he had magical super powers to make our offense hit, then i'm not sure how much a difference he would have made as well.

[Deester11]

Really? Because it seems like the exact same thing was said at last deadline, and again right now. How did that all work out?

It is the EXACT same thing.

[Deester11]

I'd say a front line started is absolutely not needed for 2024

I'd say it is, but therein lies differences of opinions. 'Shrug'

[Carp]

Yes extending rookie contracts who’s the last big signing Ozuna?

Would you feel better if we waited till they were free agents and signed them to market value contracts for their decline years?

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Would you feel better if we waited till they were free agents and signed them to market value contracts for their decline years?

Who you see this year or next year to be potentially our DH? Ozuna for the next 2 years?

[msstate7]

Who you see this year or next year to be potentially our DH? Ozuna for the next 2 years?

Hopefully Olson, Murphy, Riley, Acuna, etc

[Slippyjms]

That and he got rid of Wright, Shuster, and Soroka as SP depth as well, and he's replaced them with...... Looks around? Umm? Right now the only options for the 4-5 slots are AJSS, Elder, Vines, Winans, Waldrep isnt ready, maybe Lopez but i think he's better in a BP role.

We could probably get away with them given how deep the bullpen is but if something happens to anyone above that... Yikes. Do agree AA has to have a move for the rotation left or this offseason makes no sense.

Check the roster. Ynoa is likely the first in line for the 5th starters job. Anderson will be back at some point this year as well. How easily we forget about our injured players. Dodd also made some starts last year if we're really worried about losing that Shuster quality depth.

[Hudson2]

People not wanting to pay the price (in trade) for a starter now wont like the price at the deadline either. Outside of Fried and Strider our rotation is a question mark. Unacceptable for a team in our position.

[msstate7]

People not wanting to pay the price (in trade) for a starter now wont like the price at the deadline either. Outside of Fried and Strider our rotation is a question mark. Unacceptable for a team in our position.

Morton and elder both projected 2.3 fWAR on zips.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

People not wanting to pay the price (in trade) for a starter now wont like the price at the deadline either. Outside of Fried and Strider our rotation is a question mark. Unacceptable for a team in our position.

Next year the price are going to get worse.

[msstate7]

Next year the price are going to get worse.

More money to spend though

[Carp]

Who you see this year or next year to be potentially our DH? Ozuna for the next 2 years?

Ozuna is perfectly capable in 2024. Next off-season there will be plenty of options to replace him.

[Southcack77]

This illogical thought process being battered around that just because the known weakness of the team isn’t the reason 2 games were lost, and therefore somehow isn’t important, is baffling to read.

It's not that illogical unless you try and make it seem like the argument is being made by simpletons.

The cost of acquiring a "third starter" in a bidding war or through trade may not be justified by a small increase of a single season's championship chance (at the expense of future seasons).

I'm sure if a good deal presents itself the Braves will move on it, but thankfully the Braves haven't made most of the long term deals that folks wanted them to.

[Southcack77]

About as good as our high octane offense ****ting the bed for 3 and a 1/2 games.

Would everyone feel better if the Braves had traded away prospects to get one of the mostly fisppointong pitchers who actually did move and then still lose because they didn't hit in the playoffs?

Or do we just want to assume we traded for the only guy who actually made a positive playoff impact?

We are measuring long term interest vs a very small improvement in championship position. It's usually not worth it.

[Enscheff]

Another comment about the oddness of this offseason. AA is buying lottery tickets, which isn’t something teams ever do in the middle of their peak contention years, so that’s likely why it’s a confusing strategy to most. To clarify, “confusing” does not mean I hate AA, Kelenic, or the Braves.
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Bill
8:00 Am I the only one totally dazed and confused with all of the Braves AA trades and deals this off season?
Mark P
8:02 It's been quite the whirlwind, and frankly, I'm not sure the end result has been all that positive? Individually, the deals all make sense, yet the sum total of all these moves has added a pretty significant sum to Atlanta's payroll and tax number, without a ton of obvious gain on the roster.

Now, if Kelenic or if one of the lesser-known players like Ray Kerr breaks out, this will look like a much wiser move.