Official 2024 Off-Season Thread!

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Based on the very limited info we have, it stands to reason the Braves offer was around 6/150 (the last reported offer by the Phils) which was then topped by the 6/172 contract.

That tells me AA is willing to go upwards of $25M over any reasonable number of years for a SP, so the cash is there for anyone and only “stupid” money can outbid AA.

Exactly what i am thinking!

[SJ24]

Huge bullet dodged.

Hopefully we try like Hell to get Yamamoto.

[zbhargrove]

I think we end up with Montgomery. I really just hope AA doesn’t give up those picks for Sonny Gray.

Montgomery and Yamamoto. Trade for Soto and Kim

[Enscheff]

I think we end up with Montgomery. I really just hope AA doesn’t give up those picks for Sonny Gray.

Monty is a pretty big step down from Nola in terms of immediate quality. If AA is going to settle for a #3 I’d want a much cheaper one than the predicted contracts for Monty.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Watch Yankees overpay for Yamamoto!

[50PoundHead]

Monty is a pretty big step down from Nola in terms of immediate quality. If AA is going to settle for a #3 I’d want a much cheaper one than the predicted contracts for Monty.

I agree, but I really question the predicted contract for Montgomery. For some reason (and I'm probably wrong), I think that Montgomery is going to one of the guys on the outside looking in as the bigger contracts are signed.

[SJ24]

Several sources are reporting the Braves offer was higher than the Phillies'.

[SJ24]

If we were willing to give more than $25 million a year for Nola, a 9 year deal for $225 million would be perfectly reasonable for Yamamoto.

He will only be 34 when the contract expires. Gray is ALREADY 34.

[Southcack77]

That sets the market. Yamamoto will probably be around the same price but with a posting fee attached. I’d do that deal for him.

thing is you do the Yam deal without knowing if he'll perform and hold up.

[Southcack77]

If we were willing to give more than $25 million a year for Nola, a 9 year deal for $225 million would be perfectly reasonable for Yamamoto.

He will only be 34 when the contract expires. Gray is ALREADY 34.

You want to give a 9 year deal at #2 money to someone that hasn't pitched in MLB?

[msstate7]

Several sources are reporting the Braves offer was higher than the Phillies'.

I would guess more per year, but less years

[msstate7]

Wonder if that takes Phillies out of it on snell. Surely they won't tie up even more on snell with wheeler on the market next year

[bravesnumberone]

Several sources are reporting the Braves offer was higher than the Phillies'.

Probably the years then.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

The funny thing is Charlie Morton make 20 millions each of the last 3 years I believe…

In 7 years 24 millions for a 37 year old is not that bad. Probably market value…

[Super]

The funny thing is Charlie Morton make 20 millions each of the last 3 years I believe…

In 7 years 24 millions for a 37 year old is not that bad. Probably market value…

This is strictly player dependent though. Morton has proven useful at his age, and stringing together a bunch of one year deals is far less risky than a guaranteed long-term deal.

[Slippyjms]

You want to give a 9 year deal at #2 money to someone that hasn't pitched in MLB?

I'd rather give it to a 25 year old than a 30+ year old

[cajunrevenge]

The funny thing is Charlie Morton make 20 millions each of the last 3 years I believe…

In 7 years 24 millions for a 37 year old is not that bad. Probably market value…

He got paid more for the team not assuming long term risk. It is not the same thing. 7 years for any pitcher is a big risk. Look at the top pitchers 7 years ago then now. Theres not a lot of overlap.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

This is strictly player dependent though. Morton has proven useful at his age, and stringing together a bunch of one year deals is far less risky than a guaranteed long-term deal.

Probably he get paid less the first 2 years and more during the end of that contract.

[buck75]

I don’t think AA is going to sign a pitcher for more than a four year contract, but I could be wrong, right?

[50PoundHead]

I don’t think AA is going to sign a pitcher for more than a four year contract, but I could be wrong, right?

I do think years over AAV is the primary determinant for Anthopoulos. As pointed out with Morton, he'll go above perceived value on AAV as long as the term is right. He's deviated from that with the core offensive players (and we'll see how that turns out), but his approach on pitching seems to revolve around one- and two-year deals with a healthy AAV.