Working out our roster

[Enscheff]

I'm hoping the 4th OFer isn't on the roster yet. Grichuk is sitting there as the perfect fit.

[50PoundHead]

I would do it, but the Braves won't. But a fringe contender who really need a starter ought to do it. MKE. SAN. SFO. BOS. He's an asshole, but he's not a criminal (she is). And there are assholes all over baseball.

True, but not every asshole is a serial tweeter who tosses out whatever is on his mind. He would have to go to a place with a big personality manager.

[mfree80]

I keep wondering about Fletcher and his $6M salary in AAA. If he is not going to start the season on the 26 man roster, does he have enough value to bring back the 4th OF you guys are clamoring for?

[GovClintonTyree]

I keep wondering about Fletcher and his $6M salary in AAA. If he is not going to start the season on the 26 man roster, does he have enough value to bring back the 4th OF you guys are clamoring for?

If they've decided they'd rather have Guillormé, they might as well send Fletcher and $4m somewhere for a fourth outfielder.

[GovClintonTyree]

Hey, isn't it time to name this year's forum?

[Slippyjms]

If they've decided they'd rather have Guillormé, they might as well send Fletcher and $4m somewhere for a fourth outfielder.

I don't think that's what the team has decided at all. Basically Fletcher was taken off the 40 man cause nobody would claim him and he's a couple days of service time away from being able to declare FA if sent to the minors without forfeiting his money. Guillorme is on a major league deal and is out of options. Basically once Fletcher is on the roster he's on the roster. I imagine Guillorme starts as the single game backup and if there's a long term injury Fletcher is called up to either platoon with Guillorme or take over. Gives the team maximum flexibility and nobody misses out on any money.

[bravesfanMatt]

Hey, isn't it time to name this year's forum?

Probably past due. Someone needs to drop a new thread for forum’s name.

[cajunrevenge]

Someone's really slacking. What are we even paying subscription fees for these days?

[Mad Dog Murph]

Someone's really slacking. What are we even paying subscription fees for these days?

I had to update my card number for the site because it expired. When the first charge came on the new card I got a fraud alert.

[Enscheff]

I read the plan for Fletcher may be to play everyday in AAA to stay sharp in case he has to fill in for Arcia long term or becomes valuable to a contender who loses their everyday SS.

[chop2chip]

I read the plan for Fletcher may be to play everyday in AAA to stay sharp in case he has to fill in for Arcia long term or becomes valuable to a contender who loses their everyday SS.

Shades of Adam Duvall in 2019

[Slippyjms]

We've made some big moves so far both on the 26 and the 40 man roster. I thought it'd be a good idea to keep a full list of who we're protecting goes where so we can figure out what spots are still left to fill.

26 man

Hitters

1. Acuna RF (R)
2. Albies 2B (S)
3, Olson 1B (L)
4. Riley 3B (R)
5. Ozuna DH (R)
6. Kelenic LF (L)
7. Murphy C (R)
8. Arcia SS (R)
9. Harris ll CF (L)


10. TDA C (R)
11. Guillorme IF (L)
12. Open
13. Open

Pitchers

14. Fried LHSP
15. Strider RHSP
16. Morton RHSP
17. Sale LHSP
18. Lopez RHP/Open

19. Iglesias CP
20. Minter LHRP
21. Matzek LHRP
22. Bummer LHRP
23. Jimenez RHRP
24. Johnson RHRP
25. Stephens RHRP
26. Lopez RHP/Open


40 Man Hitters on the Bubble

27. Martinez OF
28. Wall OF

40 Man Pitchers on the Bubble

29. Elder RHSP
30. AJSS RHSP
31. Hernandez RHRP
32. Winans RHSP
33. Vines RHSP
34. Ynoa RHP

40 man players

35. Dodd LHRP
36. Lee LHRP
37. Kerr LHRP
38. Anderson RHSP (IL/AAA)
39. Perdomo LHRP (IL/AAA)
40. Murfee RHRP (IL/AAA)


NRIs Hitters

Fletcher IF (R)
Luplow OF (R)
Alvarez SS (R)
Velazquez SS (R)
Garcia UTIL (S)
White OF (R)
Tromp C (R)
Baldwin C (L)
Tolve C (L)
Rivero C (R)
Evans IF (R)
Williams IF (R)
Waddell IF (L)
Lopez IF (S)
Liberato OF (L)


NRIs Pitchers

Waldrep RHSP
Giles RHP
Walsh RHP
Bowden LHP
Widener RHP
Harris LHP
Holmes RHP
Doyle RHP

NRIs Hitters

Fletcher IF (R)
Luplow OF (R)
Alvarez SS (R)
Velazquez SS (R)
Garcia UTIL (S)
White OF (R)
Tromp C (R)
Baldwin C (L)
Tolve C (L)
Rivero C (R)
Evans IF (R)
Williams IF (R)
Waddell IF (L)
Lopez IF (S)
Liberato OF (L)


NRIs Pitchers

Waldrep RHSP
Giles RHP
Walsh RHP
Bowden LHP
Widener RHP
Harris LHP
Holmes RHP
Doyle RHP

Out Of Options Players

40 Man

Gulliorme
Johnson
Stephens
Perdomo

NRIs

Garcia
Velazquez
Luplow
Giles
Holmes

[jpx7]

I read the plan for Fletcher may be to play everyday in AAA to stay sharp in case he has to fill in for Arcia long term or becomes valuable to a contender who loses their everyday SS.

I do think that makes some sense, given the rate the Braves play their regular / don’t play their reserves. Not sure if Fletcher ultimately accrues any trade value, but he’s more likely to do so playing regularly at AAA than playing once a month in MLB.

[Heyward]

Out Of Options Players

40 Man

Gulliorme
Johnson
Stephens
Perdomo

NRIs

Garcia
Velazquez
Luplow
Giles
Holmes

AA talked up Guillorme quite a bit. Sounds like a good chance he's the backup IF'er. Also said the way the regulars play, they may just roll Kelenic vs LHP's, so thats why a RH platoon guy isnt signed. If so, basically means they roll with the regulars and rotate TDA/Murphy. With the occasional day off here and there. Dont love it but it is what it is.

[50PoundHead]

AA talked up Guillorme quite a bit. Sounds like a good chance he's the backup IF'er. Also said the way the regulars play, they may just roll Kelenic vs LHP's, so thats why a RH platoon guy isnt signed. If so, basically means they roll with the regulars and rotate TDA/Murphy. With the occasional day off here and there. Dont love it but it is what it is.

Universal DH and the need for relief pitchers has shortened benches and how they are constructed. Longer benches usually allowed for a couple of platoon spots and handedness could play a bigger role instead of positional need. Just less flexibility now. Braves are lucky in that they don't have to look to the bench much (as long as they are injury-free).

I'm just guessing, but I think Guillorme is on the team and I'm still thinking Wall or Martinez as the back-up CF with another RHH of unspecified position filling out the bench. A hot spring training probably determines who gets that last spot. I wondered why they kept Luke Williams around, but he might make sense provided he shows he can hit.

As for the options issue. I don't think it matters for the NRI guys as they've signed minor league contracts. Some of those contracts provide for an opt-out in the event the player doesn't go north. I think Perdomo makes the team and immediately goes on the 60-day DL. Johnson and Guillorme make the team and I don't think the prospect of losing Stephens wears on anyone's mind.

[Slippyjms]

Universal DH and the need for relief pitchers has shortened benches and how they are constructed. Longer benches usually allowed for a couple of platoon spots and handedness could play a bigger role instead of positional need. Just less flexibility now. Braves are lucky in that they don't have to look to the bench much (as long as they are injury-free).

I'm just guessing, but I think Guillorme is on the team and I'm still thinking Wall or Martinez as the back-up CF with another RHH of unspecified position filling out the bench. A hot spring training probably determines who gets that last spot. I wondered why they kept Luke Williams around, but he might make sense provided he shows he can hit.

As for the options issue. I don't think it matters for the NRI guys as they've signed minor league contracts. Some of those contracts provide for an opt-out in the event the player doesn't go north. I think Perdomo makes the team and immediately goes on the 60-day DL. Johnson and Guillorme make the team and I don't think the prospect of losing Stephens wears on anyone's mind.

I think the team tries to pass Perdomo through waivers instead of burning a whole year of service time. Johnson and Guillorme make the team for sure. Stephens likely makes the team too. The organization has been keeping him around for a reason.

As for the NRI guys the list covers anyone we could lose if we decide not to add them to the 26 man roster. The NRI players with options could be added to the roster and then optioned if the team wanted to keep them around.

[MadduxFanII]

Apropos of nothing, but Perdomo is a ridiculously huge man. He's listed at 6'8, 265 pounds, which is basically LeBron size.

[50PoundHead]

I think the team tries to pass Perdomo through waivers instead of burning a whole year of service time. Johnson and Guillorme make the team for sure. Stephens likely makes the team too. The organization has been keeping him around for a reason.

As for the NRI guys the list covers anyone we could lose if we decide not to add them to the 26 man roster. The NRI players with options could be added to the roster and then optioned if the team wanted to keep them around.

Could be on Perdomo, but I would venture he wouldn't make it through waivers. A non-contender probably claims him as a wild card for 2025 and just puts him on the 60-day.

[Slippyjms]

New Projected Opening Day Roster

Strider
Fried
Morton
Sale
Lopez

Iglesias
Minter
Jimenez
Bummer
Johnson
Giles-NRI
Stephens
Lee

Acuna
Albies
Riley
Olson
Ozuna
Harris ll
Murphy
Kelenic
Arcia

TDA
Guillorme
White-NRI
Williams-NRI

40 Man Roster Players

Wall
Martinez
Elder
AJSS
Ynoa
Vines
Winans
Dodd
Hernandez
Kerr

15 Day IL

Matzek

AAA IL

Anderson-Option
Perdomo-Waivers
Murfee-Option


Last two bench spots are still up for grabs but I'm assuming Wall will get ABs everyday in AAA at this point. This leaves us with 39/40 roster spots filled.

[Slippyjms]

We've made some big moves so far both on the 26 and the 40 man roster. I thought it'd be a good idea to keep a full list of who we're protecting goes where so we can figure out what spots are still left to fill.

26 man

Hitters

1. Acuna RF (R)
2. Albies 2B (S)
3, Olson 1B (L)
4. Riley 3B (R)
5. Ozuna DH (R)
6. Kelenic LF (L)
7. Murphy C (R)
8. Arcia SS (R)
9. Harris ll CF (L)


10. TDA C (R)
11. Guillorme IF (L)
Open
Open

Pitchers

12. Fried LHSP
13. Strider RHSP
14. Morton RHSP
15. Sale LHSP
16. Lopez RHP
17. Iglesias CP
18. Minter LHRP
19. Bummer LHRP
20. Jimenez RHRP
21. Johnson RHRP
22. Stephens RHRP
23. Matzek LHP
Open


Hitters Left In Camp

24. Martinez OF (L)-40
25. Wall OF (L)-40

26. White OF (R)-NRI
27. Luplow OF (R)-NRI
28. Liberato OF (L)-NRI

29. Velazquez SS (R)-NRI
30. Alvarez SS (R)-NRI
31. Fletcher IF (R)-NRI
32. Williams IF (R)-NRI
33. Waddell IF (L)-NRI

34. Tromp C (R)-NRI
35. Rivero C (R)-NRI
36. Baldwin C (L)-NRI

Pitchers Left In Camp

37. Elder RHSP-40
38. AJSS RHSP-40

39. Waldrep RHSP-NRI

40. Lee LHRP-40
41. Kerr LHRP-40

42. Giles RHRP-NRI

43. Ynoa RHP-Injured-40
44. Perdomo LHRP-Injured-40
45. Murfee RHRP-Injured-40


Cuts

Anderson RHSP-40
Hernandez RHRP-40
Dodd LHRP-40
Winans RHSP-40
Vines RHSP-40

Walsh RHP-NRI
Holmes RHP-NRI
Bowden LHP-NRI
Widener RHP-NRI
Harris LHP-NRI
Doyle RHP-NRI

Garcia UTIL (S)-NRI
Lopez IF (S)-NRI
Evans IF (R)-NRI
Tolve C (L)-NRI

Did a big update of the roster. Pitching wise it looks like barring an implosion Giles is getting the open pitching spot and Lee and Kerr are competing to fill in for Matzek if needed. Elder AJSS and Waldrep are competing for the 6th starter spot.

As for the hitters I have White and Williams in the lead for the last 2 bench spots. I don't see any way we carry a 3rd catcher. I don't see Alvarez Waddell or Fletcher starting the year in Atlanta for various reasons and I think Wall and Martinez may get everyday ABs in AAA to start the year.

Edit: Actually after further thought I could see Tromp making the roster. If the last man on the bench is never going to play then why not use the spot to free up TDA/Murphy for PH duties