Spencer Strider

[cajunrevenge]

I have always wanted a team to try using 9 primary pitchers who each pitch 3 innings every 3 days. Or roughly 1 time through the batting order. That still leaves 3-5 pitchers for extra innings or to finish off for a pitcher that couldnt get through his 3 innings. Ideally alternating lefty and righty pitchers so teams cant stack the batting order with one side.

[50PoundHead]

I agree. Some fans may have a hard time coming to terms with this but todays hitters would feast on most pitchers from previous eras. Contact pitching just isn't going to work on a consistant basis.

I first started noticing the change in the 1990s. I was watching a Braves' game and a Braves' pitcher threw an almost perfect pitch on the low outside corner and Mike Piazza hit this sky-high flyball that I thought would be the proverbial "can of corn" for the right-fielder. Camera pans out and the ball just kept going and was a fence-skimmer HR. I thought it was an anomaly, but then I saw Albert Belle do the same thing. PEDs might have played a role then, but the more I watched, the more I saw stronger players driving outer-half pitches the other way to great success. There was always a handful of guys--Reggie Jackson for one--that swung hard (and had a high K-rate) but had very good opposite field power, but I just see it being more a part of the game. Pitching inside and moving guys off the plate has become verboten, so the outer half just isn't a safe bet for pitchers anymore.

[Mrs. Meta]

I first started noticing the change in the 1990s. I was watching a Braves' game and a Braves' pitcher threw an almost perfect pitch on the low outside corner and Mike Piazza hit this sky-high flyball that I thought would be the proverbial "can of corn" for the right-fielder. Camera pans out and the ball just kept going and was a fence-skimmer HR. I thought it was an anomaly, but then I saw Albert Belle do the same thing. PEDs might have played a role then, but the more I watched, the more I saw stronger players driving outer-half pitches the other way to great success. There was always a handful of guys--Reggie Jackson for one--that swung hard (and had a high K-rate) but had very good opposite field power, but I just see it being more a part of the game. Pitching inside and moving guys off the plate has become verboten, so the outer half just isn't a safe bet for pitchers anymore.

Speaking of Reggie jackson, I was surprised when I learned that he has the most strikeouts of all time as a hitter. It's probably because I never saw him play, but I would never have guessed he would be number one in this category.

[Carp]

With so many top pitchers going down I have to think it's only a matter of time before someone signs Bauer.

Dude let it go. No one is signing a guy who openly admitted to doing basically everything he was accused of.

[striker42]

Dude let it go. No one is signing a guy who openly admitted to doing basically everything he was accused of.

This is the first I've mentioned Bauer. I've generally been in your boat thinking he's done. I don't think we'd sign him and I don't want us to. However, in the span of a little over a week we've seen Bieber and Strider go down for the year and it doesn't look good for Framber Valdez. Those guys combined for nearly 12 fWAR last year.

Perhaps it would be better to say that if this pitching attrition keeps up then someone will sign Bauer. When a GM's job is on the line, wins will take precedence over bad PR.

[Carp]

This is the first I've mentioned Bauer. I've generally been in your boat thinking he's done. I don't think we'd sign him and I don't want us to. However, in the span of a little over a week we've seen Bieber and Strider go down for the year and it doesn't look good for Framber Valdez. Those guys combined for nearly 12 fWAR last year.

Perhaps it would be better to say that if this pitching attrition keeps up then someone will sign Bauer. When a GM's job is on the line, wins will take precedence over bad PR.

Sorry, I thought you the one who keeps petitioning us to sign Bauer every other day

[50PoundHead]

Speaking of Reggie jackson, I was surprised when I learned that he has the most strikeouts of all time as a hitter. It's probably because I never saw him play, but I would never have guessed he would be number one in this category.

He didn't get cheated at the plate. One of the more violent swings in the game. His K number is largely due to longevity. He played 20 full seasons (and 35 games after his first call-up) and played less than 125 games only 3 times during that stretch. His career K-percentage was below 25%. A relative contact hitter to some of the big swing guys now.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Strider had internal brace surgery instead of Tommy John

[cajunrevenge]

This is good news. The brace has a 6-7 month recovery time and has a higher success rate than the full TJ. So he could be ready to go to start 2025. Maybe his recovery time will be little longer because he has had the full TJ before but he has nearly 12 months to recover.

[zbhargrove]

Pretty much the best possible news... makes me nervous about his injury future though

[Slippyjms]

This is good news. The brace has a 6-7 month recovery time and has a higher success rate than the full TJ. So he could be ready to go to start 2025. Maybe his recovery time will be little longer because he has had the full TJ before but he has nearly 12 months to recover.

I'd guess he starts next year on the 60 day IL but comes off when eligible

[cajunrevenge]

I wouldn't be surprised if he misses the first month just to be cautious. We would want him to be fresh for the playoffs.

[BabyElle]

If a player is out for the season due to injury ie Strider are they required to be at the games?

[thewupk]

Glad they got it out of the way instead of waiting.

[bravesfanMatt]

If a player is out for the season due to injury ie Strider are they required to be at the games?

No.

[BabyElle]

No.

Thanks. I guess it's up to them if they want to be there.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Thanks. I guess it's up to them if they want to be there.

A lot of times the player is there all day getting treatment and leaves Before the game

[Tapate50]

I wouldn't be surprised if he misses the first month just to be cautious. We would want him to be fresh for the playoffs.

I bet his target date will be the ASB next season

[zbhargrove]

I bet his target date will be the ASB next season

If that were the case, there was no reason to do the brace procedure. The whole point is to be ready earlier. If he comes back at the ASB, something went wrong.

[Tapate50]

Just being cautious isn’t a bad reason