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    Awesome! Watching Simmons play is a joy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    C: Bench
    1B: Hernandez
    2B: ??
    SS: Simmons
    3B: Robinson (maybe machado one day)
    LF: ?
    RF: Clemente
    CF: Druw

    Who are the question marks?
    Robbie Alomar was by far the best I'd ever seen at 2B. Highlight reel every game, much like Simmons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPawMaxwell View Post
    And most of the same writers have said it will be extremely hard to keep Heyward and even more so with todays signing. I would guess we would have to include Upton as being difficult as well.
    Who said this, and where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPawMaxwell View Post
    And most of the same writers have said it will be extremely hard to keep Heyward and even more so with todays signing. I would guess we would have to include Upton as being difficult as well.
    Yes, Heyward will be the most difficult to sign.

    They can probably only keep one of JUp or Heyward though.

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    Wow, I am floored with the money we have spent over the past two weeks, to the tune of over $280MM. We've given out more in extensions in the past few days than we have in the past 10-20 years. Cobb County has saved the day. For so many years we've been penny pinchers, and now this. Just wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Yes, Heyward will be the most difficult to sign.

    They can probably only keep one of JUp or Heyward though.
    That would depend on what kind of years he puts up in 2014/2015. It's not totally outside of the realm of possibility that they revisit a deal with Jason this season, now that the core is coming together cohesively.

    They could give the two, combined, somewhere in the neighborhood of $35-40MM annually -- but not much more, and with some creative language likely inserted.

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    Didn't someone mention that the Braves are not allowed to re-negotiate with Jason until after this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Who said this, and where?
    Yeah, i havent seen that either.

    But i would figure it will be hard to keep Heyward though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaneHill View Post
    Didn't someone mention that the Braves are not allowed to re-negotiate with Jason until after this season?
    They can now but i would guess they re-do talks next winter or after the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    They can now but i would guess they re-do talks next winter or after the season.
    It would be nice if Heyward saw all this activity and said eff it, sign me up, please. Doubtful but you never know. Just the other day (Sunday) I read on here that Simmons and the Braves were far apart in figures to sign long term. Then 4 days later and they've reached a long term deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    First time in over 10 years I felt like the team had money AND was willing to spend it.
    Mainly because of how cheap these contracts are below market value. If they weren't, we aren't going to spend on these guys at market value.
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    We MUST be turning a lot of players' heads and becoming quite attractive to potential future free agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    They can now but i would guess they re-do talks next winter or after the season.
    Thanks, Heyward. Good to know. I was confused by that point when I read it the other day. Must have misunderstood.

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    I see Heyward as kind of arrogant and probably wants more than he's worth. You can't always pay a player based on what he's capable of but what he's accomplished. I like Heyward and wish he would stay but if he snubs us one more time I'd give the money to Upton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    Mainly because of how cheap these contracts are below market value. If they weren't, we aren't going to spend on these guys at market value.
    It think Freemans deal was pretty much market value and then the chips started to fall after that.
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    From what i read the two year deal was the result of negotiations for a long term deal. They agreed to the two year deal and plan to negotiate next offseason for a longer extension. That means there was a big gap between the braves and Heyward. The braves want to see Heyward play a full season with no DL trips and Heyward probably thinks he will have a breakout year with the bat.

    Overall I think its a positive sign. I think the fact that his deal got done first is proof that he was the number 1 priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    From what i read the two year deal was the result of negotiations for a long term deal. They agreed to the two year deal and plan to negotiate next offseason for a longer extension. That means there was a big gap between the braves and Heyward. The braves want to see Heyward play a full season with no DL trips and Heyward probably thinks he will have a breakout year with the bat.
    The Braves never offered Jason anything long-term, according to Wren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    From what i read the two year deal was the result of negotiations for a long term deal. They agreed to the two year deal and plan to negotiate next offseason for a longer extension. That means there was a big gap between the braves and Heyward. The braves want to see Heyward play a full season with no DL trips and Heyward probably thinks he will have a breakout year with the bat.

    Overall I think its a positive sign. I think the fact that his deal got done first is proof that he was the number 1 priority.
    I agree. Heyward would be "selling low" on himself if he signed a longterm deal right now. None of the current guys that signed an extension are in the same boat.

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    Looks like a pretty good deal on Simmons. Much better than what the Rangers shelled out for Andrus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    The Braves never offered Jason anything long-term, according to Wren.
    for good reason...

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