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    The Braves could circle back to Oakland since they love to trade with each other. Miller and or Rooker

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    Waldrep for Devin Williams? I kid, i kid... Maybe. Does put bullpen as a bigger need now with JJ out for most of next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Waldrep for Devin Williams? I kid, i kid... Maybe. Does put bullpen as a bigger need now with JJ out for most of next year.
    Yeah he’s out set up guy so that will put pressure on AA to get another high leverage reliever. Mason Miller would be the dream bc he can close after this year and share duties with Iglesias this year.

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    Earliest he could return with no setbacks is July they said. So he could be back in time to help down the stretch and his arm would be super fresh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Yeah he’s out set up guy so that will put pressure on AA to get another high leverage reliever. Mason Miller would be the dream bc he can close after this year and share duties with Iglesias this year.
    Yeah, Miller is the dream trade target. No idea what it'd cost though.

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    Losing JJ will be tough, he was nails this past year. But bullpen guys arent usually too hard to find or expensive. But the wrong ones can screw you over. AA's usually pretty good at building a bullpen though, so i trust him.

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    The TDA move is pretty surprising. I think AA should have around $50M to spend now.

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    Devin Williams and the brewers will part ways it seems
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    I assume the Braves picked up Ozunas option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I assume the Braves picked up Ozunas option?
    Yep. And declined Jackson’s like we knew he would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I think AJSS, Waldrep, and Nacho in a package together would be strong. Baldwin and Caminiti are off limits. With so many young guys on the team I would be fine sending that package for Crochet.
    I don't think Waldrep and Nacho have the value that you think they do. Nacho's EV numbers in AAA were not that impressive and Waldrep's stock took a huge hit last year.

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    If Waldrep doesn’t have much value, keep him and make him a reliever. He could be a really good one, and it seems like they may be looking for help there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfree80 View Post
    If Waldrep doesn’t have much value, keep him and make him a reliever. He could be a really good one, and it seems like they may be looking for help there.
    I think that is the most likely option... he could be a very good reliever. The only caveat is if some team is just absolutely in love with that splitter. We know there are certain teams that fall weirdly in love with players.

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    It might be worth noting the current luxury number is $223M, which is a good bit under the first cap of $241M. I really hope they aren't trying to reset the penalties, but if they are this roster could be considered complete with $12M-$15M left to spend this offseason assuming a few million left for the deadline.

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    AA loves a good pen and we only have 4 reliable arms now with Dylan Lee and the other 3.

    Daysbal is still a question mark, but he has options so he could earn a spot or start out in AAA again

    Holmes will be stretched out and probably start the season in the rotation.

    So we need 3 new bullpen arms and preferably for 1 of them to have options, so it’s not Daysbal always going down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    AA loves a good pen and we only have 4 reliable arms now with Dylan Lee and the other 3.

    Daysbal is still a question mark, but he has options so he could earn a spot or start out in AAA again

    Holmes will be stretched out and probably start the season in the rotation.

    So we need 3 new bullpen arms and preferably for 1 of them to have options, so it’s not Daysbal always going down.
    Obviously, Iglesias, Johnson, Bummer, and Lee are quality options. Add Hernandez to that mix and you have five "probable" arms.

    It remains to be seen how they deploy Holmes, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the fifth/sixth/starter starter mix, along with Ian Anderson and AJ Smith-Shawver; if so, Allan Winans may lose his spot on the 40-man. I see Huascar Ynoa as a likely non-tender candidate, as well. Holmes could also be the sixth "probable" arm, and function as an opener/swingman/longman once Strider is back, et cetera.

    Conversely, they've held onto Angel Perdomo and Ray Kerr for this long, so I'd expect both—once healthy—to be in the back-of-the-bullpen mix (and indeed Perdomo, assuming no setbacks, should be available out of the gate). And then they have Royber Salinas and Domingo Gonzalez in the "optionable depth" bucket.

    Given Anthopoulos' past proclivities, I wouldn't be surprised to see him add one more "less questionable" option (which could even be Minter on a one-year "prove it" deal), as well as a few more optionable flyers. But, for once, I don't expect the bullpen to be a major source of significant transactions (which means Anthopoulos et al will probably do exactly that ...).
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    Is Minter done? He was hurt, came back, and hurt again, but not sure what the injury was.

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    Minter is a free agent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    It might be worth noting the current luxury number is $223M, which is a good bit under the first cap of $241M. I really hope they aren't trying to reset the penalties, but if they are this roster could be considered complete with $12M-$15M left to spend this offseason assuming a few million left for the deadline.
    Would be unfortunate, and tough to square with Anthopoulos' "I expect payroll will rise again" statement—though he did carefully phrase that as an expectation (full quote, in all its vagueness, below). However, I suppose there is some wisdom to resetting now, if you have faith in the current roster, think you can have a good pitching staff without major additions / through internal promotions, and think you can creatively upgrade LF/SS without eclipsing the CBT threshold. Certainly, Drake Baldwin's emergence as a seemingly-bonafide MLB bat at catcher helps (saving those $8m by declining d'Arnaud).

    I'd moreover assume they'd only do this if they have a plan to spend back into tax territory in the 2025 offseason—but it's not a particularly intriguing group of FAs next offseason, with Vlad Jr and (to a lesser extent) Bichette Jr being the only really eye-catching options.

    “It’s gone up each year that I’ve been here,” Anthopoulos said (link via Gabe Burns of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution). “I know it’s not going to go down, I expect it to rise, but to what level, we’ll spend the offseason going through that. I view it opening day to opening day, because in-season things come up. … Is it a bottomless pit? Is it unlimited? Of course not. But every year we’ve set a new Braves high from a payroll standpoint. … We will be going up, I just can’t give you the amount.”
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