Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

[thethe]

To my knowledge one does not currently need a US Passport to visit their loved ones in prison. Requiring international travel to visit an incarcerated citizen creates barriers to the visitation system that would not exist for other prisoners.

Ah - The argument that one can't get a passport to visit. Strikingly similar to the argument one can't get an ID to vote.

Got it but for sure what a MASSIVE hurdle to overcome.

[mqt]

Ah - The argument that one can't get a passport to visit. Strikingly similar to the argument one can't get an ID to vote.

Got it but for sure what a MASSIVE hurdle to overcome.

I’m not claiming it an impossible task, I’m claiming the added expense and time delays involved in requiring a passport for the visitation of just *some* prisoners likely violates the constitutional rights of those prisoners.

[thethe]

Absolute weaponization - For a staged action no less.

[thethe]

I’m not claiming it an impossible task, I’m claiming the added expense and time delays involved in requiring a passport for the visitation of just *some* prisoners likely violates the constitutional rights of those prisoners.

*some* being the worst of the worst. Forgive most Americans for not caring.

[mqt]

*some* being the worst of the worst. Forgive most Americans for not caring.

I’m not asking “most Americans” to care about due process. I’m asking the federal government to.

[thethe]

I’m not asking “most Americans” to care about due process. I’m asking the federal government to.

And we the people (who the government works for) don't really care about murderers and rapists being sent to a prison in another country.

Its an additional deterrent that will help society.

[mqt]

Absolute weaponization - For a staged action no less.

If it took 39% of the FBI to investigate these seem like they must have been considered the “worst of the worst” criminals. Surely you wouldn’t have cared if these prisoners had been sent to El Salvador.

[thethe]

If it took 39% of the FBI to investigate these seem like they must have been considered the “worst of the worst” criminals. Surely you wouldn’t have cared if these prisoners had been sent to El Salvador.

These people would have been treated better in El Salvador based on the information that has been released.

For their sake I wish they would have been.

[mqt]

And we the people (who the government works for) don't really care about murderers and rapists being sent to a prison in another country.

It’s an additional deterrent that will help society.

“I was going to pull the trigger because I didn’t think I’d get caught, but then I remembered that the 25-to-life I would get if I were caught might be in El Salvador instead and turned to Christ.”

[thethe]

“I was going to pull the trigger because I didn’t think I’d get caught, but then I remembered that the 25-to-life I would get if I were caught might be in El Salvador instead and turned to Christ.”

How about just didn't pull the trigger or didn't put themself in that situation.

Thats how incentives work out.

Similar to people crossing the border in the millions under Biden because they know NGO groups, funded by our government, gives them free shelter and food.

[mqt]

I’m glad to learn that Constitutionally protected rights are actually just a matter of public opinion now though.

[thethe]

I’m glad to learn that Constitutionally protected rights are actually just a matter of public opinion now though.

Public opinion is not kind to murderers and rapists thats for sure.

[mqt]

How about just didn't pull the trigger or didn't put themself in that situation.

Thats how incentives work out.

Similar to people crossing the border in the millions under Biden because they know NGO groups, funded by our government, gives them free shelter and food.

Unfortunately they just weren’t deterred enough by the American prison system. It’s really the government’s fault anybody has ever committed any act of violence.

[thethe]

Unfortunately they just weren’t deterred enough by the American prison system. It’s really the government’s fault anybody has ever committed any act of violence.

Clearly not enough - Being shipping to another country entirely? Well, that will incentivize a few to change their minds.

[mqt]

Public opinion is not kind to murderers and rapists thats for sure.

It’s not. Fortunately we have a Constitution to ensure public opinion is not what dictates whether someone is afforded rights or not.

[thethe]

It’s not. Fortunately we have a Constitution to ensure public opinion is not what dictates whether someone is afforded rights or not.

Fortunately, all those rights are there even in El Salavador!

[thethe]

But it is interesting that you respect the laws of the coutnry when it helps the worst people but ignore those laws when it comes to migrants here illegally.

[zitothebrave]

Democrats are so ****ed - It will be interesting to see how many inroads we can make into big cities to gain super majorities in both houses.

Elon didn't start Tesla. He bought shares of Tesla from Series A funding

Elon did start Space X, but had basically no hand in it other than hiring.

Musk isn't the dumbest billionaire, and that's stupid of AOC to say. Trump is a billionaire.

[zitothebrave]

Fortunately, all those rights are there even in El Salavador!

This is one of the saddest and most depraved takes I've seen.

[mqt]

But it is interesting that you respect the laws of the coutnry when it helps the worst people but ignore those laws when it comes to migrants here illegally.

Yeah, so ****ing weird that I might care more about the government following laws than I do about individuals following laws. People drive over the speed limit every day, which constitutional protections should I throw out as a result?