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    DOGE

    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/60580

    The Congressional Budget Office tracks authorizations of appropriations that have specified expiration dates and identifies, annually, appropriations that are provided for authorizations that have expired or that will expire by the end of the current fiscal year. For this report, CBO identified 1,264 authorizations of appropriations that expired before the beginning of fiscal year 2024 and 251 authorizations that are set to expire before the end of the fiscal year. CBO also found that $516 billion in appropriations for 2024 was associated with 491 expired authorizations of appropriations.


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    This should be an easy place to start. It’s insane to me that the government could put expirations into spending appropriations, and that STILL doesn’t stop the spending. Half a trillion dollars spent on expired authorizations of appropriations? Ridiculous.

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    That’s govt for you.

    Everyone’s obsessed with getting reelected instead of making hard calls
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    I think people will be amazed at how fast Vivek and Elon find trillions in savings m.
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    Finding is the easy part. It’s the executing that worries me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    Finding is the easy part. It’s the executing that worries me.
    There is always pushback from the leviathan. It basically stopped Trump from doing anything long lasting in his first term. I think the system is more understood this time and Trump has far more brain power behind him this time.

    The conversations I can’t wait to have after all this waste is flushed out is how can we offer free medical care to all Americans or how we can get more creative with more retirement income assistance.

    It’s the fact elites have stolen form our coffers for a generation that these programs can’t be solvent. Well that and the 30m+ illegals draining the system.
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    Unless Trump is willing to use a veto pen this time around, and take the heat for a massive government shutdown, nothing will be cut.

    He refused the first time, let's see this time

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    is how can we offer free medical care to all Americans or how we can get more creative with more retirement income assistance.
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    Good lord

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Good lord
    Just wait - these takes will looks as good as many of your election takes.

    Your whole basis for cutting this is it’s “making us bankrupt”. What happens when it doesn’t?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Just wait - these takes will looks as good as many of your election takes.

    Your whole basis for cutting this is it’s “making us bankrupt”. What happens when it doesn’t?
    Just more and more evidence you are a full blown Bernie Sanders socialist and have no clue why we are in the financial mess we are in

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Just more and more evidence you are a full blown Bernie Sanders socialist and have no clue why we are in the financial mess we are in
    Damn ugly socialist that wants people to live with dignity while us high achievers still have a life beyond what we could have dreamed of as kids.

    I’m a monster!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Damn ugly socialist that wants people to live with dignity while us high achievers still have a life beyond what we could have dreamed of as kids.

    I’m a monster!!
    Yes, leftists have often accused me of wanting people to die because I don't support socialized medicine. Glad you have the same IQ as theirs

    Do you think our situation has gotten better or worse since we have introduced "free" Healthcare to people (medicare)

    Economics has never been your strong suit

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Yes, leftists have often accused me of wanting people to die because I don't support socialized medicine. Glad you have the same IQ as theirs

    Do you think our situation has gotten better or worse since we have introduced "free" Healthcare to people (medicare)

    Economics has never been your strong suit
    Whose situation? You and I? Because I think it’s pretty easy to state that both you and I have had lives that greatly improved the last 10 years. Even with all that nasty socialism.

    And that’s what the result will always be because hugh achievers will always achieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Whose situation? You and I? Because I think it’s pretty easy to state that both you and I have had lives that greatly improved the last 10 years. Even with all that nasty socialism.

    And that’s what the result will always be because hugh achievers will always achieve.
    The US health care costs situation since Medicaid and Medicare have been introduced

    (By the way you ain't gonna pay for these socialized programs by cutting "governemnt waste", gotta go after the entitlements which you want more of. Not less)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    The US health care costs situation since Medicaid and Medicare have been introduced

    (By the way you ain't gonna pay for these socialized programs by cutting "governemnt waste", gotta go after the entitlements which you want more of. Not less)
    Well entitlement demand will decrease and I’m sure there is lots of waste and fraud. It’s all part of the reimagined government that will be trumps legacy. These discussions will be fun to revisit in a few years when we are operating at a surplus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Well entitlement demand will decrease and I’m sure there is lots of waste and fraud. It’s all part of the reimagined government that will be trumps legacy. These discussions will be fun to revisit in a few years when we are operating at a surplus.
    So has our health care situation gotten better or worse since we started giving "free" health care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    So has our health care situation gotten better or worse since we started giving "free" health care?
    Well we have millions of non citizens draining resources so it’s hard to seperate that from a true plan.

    But healthcare system has gotten worse since its introduction. But I don’t believe it’s because the idea is bad. Its execution and the fact we have tens of millions of freeloaders putting pressure on the system.
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    There is a lot of waste in health care.

    Simultaneously, public health is one of the greatest success stories of public policy. Child mortality rates for example were about 30% 100 years ago and have dropped mostly due to public health measures. The private sector to be sure has made a large contribution. But this is mainly a public health policy success story.

    More recently we have had a major public health policy failure story in the form of U.S. life expectancy dropping well below other countries. Interestingly, this is also a blue state/red state story, with life expectancy diverging between the two groups of states.

    I think Make America Healthy Again is a great slogan. More than that it actually puts its finger on an important problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Well we have millions of non citizens draining resources so it’s hard to seperate that from a true plan.

    But healthcare system has gotten worse since its introduction. But I don’t believe it’s because the idea is bad. Its execution and the fact we have tens of millions of freeloaders putting pressure on the system.
    So that I understand your position, can you confirm that you are in favor of a free, nationalized Healthcare system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    So that I understand your position, can you confirm that you are in favor of a free, nationalized Healthcare system?
    I think every us citizen should have access to healthcare in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

    Absolutely. It’s a drop in the bucket to what the future will be and the yields generated as a result of healthier population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I think every us citizen should have access to healthcare in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

    Absolutely. It’s a drop in the bucket to what the future will be and the yields generated as a result of healthier population.
    I really don't understand why you argue with me that you aren't a socialist.

    It's ok that you are. Many people are! You and 57 and bernie Sanders are aligned. Embrace that

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