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    Ervin Santana and #Braves agree 1 year deal, pending physical. Santana arriving to Braves park in Orlando right now.
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    Will be interested to see how much the deal is for. I suspect it's less then what the O's and Jays offered but he does have a better chance of having a better year in Atlanta.

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    Not loving the one year deal aspect but its a move that needed to get done. If he has a dynamite season (improves on last year) then he should fetch us back a first round pick next year.

    Hopefully there is a team option on this deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Will be interested to see how much the deal is for. I suspect it's less then what the O's and Jays offered but he does have a better chance of having a better year in Atlanta.
    This is basically what I predicted last night. He is probably banking on getting a big deal next year hoping that he has a career year pitching in the NL pitching behind a solid defense.
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    Worst case scenario if he pitching well is that Santana accepts the qualifying offer and the Braves go on a year by year basis which is EXACTLY what you want to do with a starting pitcher.
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    Damn hope there is an option.

    Write this down: I've always really liked Santana's stuff and upside, and I truly believe pitching in the NL and an environment like Atlanta with our defense that this guy becomes an absolute stud much like Vasquez did when we finally were able to get him after attempting to and drooling over years before.

    And I'm still hoping for the best for Medlen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Worst case scenario if he pitching well is that Santana accepts the qualifying offer and the Braves go on a year by year basis which is EXACTLY what you want to do with a starting pitcher.
    Well the Braves and Santana could have a handshake deal where they don't offer the QO next year. Pirates did it with Burnett. So maybe Santana takes less to play here but doesn't have the QO burden next off season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Well the Braves and Santana could have a handshake deal where they don't offer the QO next year. Pirates did it with Burnett. So maybe Santana takes less to play here but doesn't have the QO burden next off season.
    I would absolutely not be in favor of that but I suppose the Braves were backed into a corner. Hopefully Santana loves it here so much that he wants to sign long term because the Braves need to plan for a future without Medlen and Beachy so a spot in the rotation has opened up.

    Teheran
    Minor
    Santana
    Wood
    Garcia

    Not awful and then when late May comes around you can rest Wood for a couple of weeks to control his innings and slide Floyd in. Then come July 1st your rotation is:

    Teheran
    Minor
    Santana
    Wood
    Floyd

    Thats still a damn fine rotation. Well done Frank!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I would absolutely not be in favor of that but I suppose the Braves were backed into a corner.
    I wouldn't like that either but it's just a possibility.

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    I am very happy they only did a one year deal. No reason to strap us for 4 or 5 years with all the young pitching we have. I agree that his numbers will improve in the NL. Almost always does. I'm sure that David Hale is discouraged by the pick up but is encouraged it's only a 1 year deal.

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    Hale could easily slide in if Garcia falters.
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    Had to do it to compete. Hate giving up the pick, but we have the Yankees' first rounder, so that mitigates the loss.

    I run lukewarm-to-cold on Wren. He does some things very well and I'm ecstatic that he locked up a lot of the young core. But after Hudson signed with the Giants, I don't see how he could not have foreseen the need to get another healthy veteran arm with some tread left on the tires for the rotation. Instead, we have Garcia and Floyd.

    I never counted on Beachy's return and if the radar gun is accurate, he's going to need a lot more time to get anywhere near the same zipcode in which he was. I hope Minor's injuries aren't serious and they could not have been foreseen. I love Medlen, but I'm not surprised the injury bug bit him again (but that couldn't truly be foreseen either). Wood is going to be good somewhere (pen or rotation), but if he's on an innings limit, there's another hole, albeit minor (no pun intended), in the rotation. Teheran is looking the lights out guy (of course, it's only spring training) that many have predicted him becoming, but he can't pitch every day.

    This entire scenario is what makes signing Santana necessary. I just hope the cost isn't too steep. But look at those innings numbers if nothing else. Santana has been very inconsistent, but he eats innings and that is always welcome.

    I'm not for wasting money or draft picks, but I think Wren needed to do this.
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    Apparently it's 14 million.

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    We should just feel fortunate that this late in the game that there was a pitcher of this caliber still on the market and available to sign, otherwise other teams would know that we were desperate and would have tried to absolutely rape us or do nothing or worse yet pick up some piece of garbage late in spring training like JS did in 2003 with Shane Reynolds.

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    Yeah, concur with most that it was a needed deal and the best news is the owners are willing to go over budget to win now. We were looking at Hale AND Garcia in the rotation and that just can't cut it. Beachy and Medlen are probably done as 200 inning guys and certainly aren't going to do that this year. And nobody's talking about Minor but I'd love to know what the hell is going on with him. Urinary problem cause shoulder soreness? WTF. THere's more to this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpeteirish View Post
    Yeah, concur with most that it was a needed deal and the best news is the owners are willing to go over budget to win now. We were looking at Hale AND Garcia in the rotation and that just can't cut it. Beachy and Medlen are probably done as 200 inning guys and certainly aren't going to do that this year. And nobody's talking about Minor but I'd love to know what the hell is going on with him. Urinary problem cause shoulder soreness? WTF. THere's more to this one.
    This isn't an example of liberty being generous. Our profits would be pretty similar whether we signed Santana or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Apparently it's 14 million.
    That can't be true

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