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    lol we cut a guy with an 85 mph fastball and suddenly Liberty is public enemy #1 again. Our scouts probably told Wren that everyone in our AAA rotation is a better option than Garcia

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvsportscaster View Post
    David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves · 8m
    There's a lefty throwing in #Braves 'pen now with no name on jersey. Going out to see. Wren watching him.
    erik bedard perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithlaw View Post
    lol we cut a guy with an 85 mph fastball and suddenly Liberty is public enemy #1 again. Our scouts probably told Wren that everyone in our AAA rotation is a better option than Garcia
    Yea, I'm sure his price-tag hurt him in terms of the Braves' roster calculus, but I think the decision was based as much on performance potential as it was on fiduciary constraints—a likelihood reflected in O'Brien's note on the dismissal:

    But the Braves thought Garcia, 37, had lost too much on his fastball and other pitches to justify spending $1.25 million
    There's a salient distinction between being able to afford something and thinking something is worth something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Buchter sent to the minors. Looks like Varvaro, Gearrin and Thomas made the team.

    Schlosser to start unless there is an acquisition.

    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Jeez, you'd think John Smoltz was just cut

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Woooooooooo!!!!!!!!

    I guarantee this was bc of the Ervin Santana signing
    and Floyd's ahead of schedule. 1.25 mill too much to pay for 2-3 starts.

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    I don't get this, could Schlosser have been that impressive? He was the top guy on Mississippi's staff last year.

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    Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman 4m

    Wren's explanation for releasing Garcia didn't make much sense. But there's no doubt he's hoping to acquire a better option this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpeteirish View Post
    I don't get this, could Schlosser have been that impressive? He was the top guy on Mississippi's staff last year.
    He didn't need to be impressive at all. Just less unimpressive than Garcia

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURBO View Post
    Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman 4m

    Wren's explanation for releasing Garcia didn't make much sense. But there's no doubt he's hoping to acquire a better option this week
    Does Bowman elaborate?

    From what I've read, Wren et al simply did not expect Garcia to perform at a level that would justify a $1.25-million guarantee. If that's gist of Wren's "explanation" then it makes a lot of sense to me.
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    The lefty was probably HoRam. He is back as a coach. Ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krovahn View Post
    The lefty was probably HoRam. He is back as a coach. Ha ha.
    DOB did comment that whoever he went to go see was unimpressive and not mentionworthy. HoRam fits that bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    And yet Varvaro's limited stat line is better than Gearrin's over the past three seasons. I don't cotton much to either Varvaro or Gearrin, but this impression that Gearrin is somehow the second coming of Dan Quissenberry is a bit ridiculous.

    I agree with purplebrave. My only caveat is that a win in April equals a win in August, so if Garcia's experience could net a couple of wins early, they would count in the standings. However, the season goes well beyond April and, while one can't prove the negative, there's nothing that leads me to believe he'd get better as the season wears on and Hale, Schlosser, or someone else might.

    I think Wren is going to watch the waiver wire closely, especially for a bullpen arm or two. But this rending of clothing and gnashing of teeth over Garcia is kind of amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithlaw View Post
    lol we cut a guy with an 85 mph fastball and suddenly Liberty is public enemy #1 again. Our scouts probably told Wren that everyone in our AAA rotation is a better option than Garcia
    Exactly. Don't see the problem with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpeteirish View Post
    I don't get this, could Schlosser have been that impressive? He was the top guy on Mississippi's staff last year.
    Now the Braves will have a month or so to evaluate first-hand both Hale's and Schlosser's abilities to start at the major-league level, and even longer to evaluate whichever one they leave in the rotation as fifth-starter until Floyd is ready.

    While there is some risk over the first several weeks of the season, with respect to 2014 regular-season record—and I think such risk is probably overstated, since the alternative of giving Garcia starts also carried ample risk—this key evaluation period could be huge in planning for the 2015 rotation and beyond (when the likely departures of Santana and Floyd, and the uncertainty respective to the recoveries and contract-retention of Medlen and Beachy, will present Wren with a lot of difficult decisions). Meanwhile, if either Hale or Schlosser—or both—pitches very well, suddenly the Braves have more attractive pieces for mid-season tweaks; and whether they do pitch well or they don't, each pitcher will have gained experience in case subsequent injuries force the Braves to call upon them again, either this year or next.

    All for the low, low price of not paying Freddy Garcia a guaranteed $1.25-million.

    Really, in my mind, the more angles from which you view Garcia's release, the more sense it makes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Now the Braves will have a month or so to evaluate first-hand both Hale's and Schlosser's abilities to start at the major-league level, and even longer to evaluate whichever one they leave in the rotation as fifth-starter until Floyd is ready.

    While there is some risk over the first several weeks of the season, with respect to 2014 regular-season record—and I think such risk is probably overstated, since the alternative of giving Garcia starts also carried ample risk—this key evaluation period could be huge in planning for the 2015 rotation and beyond (when the likely departures of Santana and Floyd, and the uncertainty respective to the recoveries and contract-retention of Medlen and Beachy, will present Wren with a lot of difficult decisions). Meanwhile, if either Hale or Schlosser—or both—pitches very well, suddenly the Braves have more attractive pieces for mid-season tweaks; and whether they do pitch well or they don't, each pitcher will have gained experience in case subsequent injuries force the Braves to call upon them again, either this year or next.

    All for the low, low price of not paying Freddy Garcia a guaranteed $1.25-million.

    Really, in my mind, the more angles from which you view Garcia's release, the more sense it makes.
    Signing him is what didn't make sense.

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    Its going to be tough to be in the playoff hunt if the rotation is Teheran, Wood, Santana, Hale, Schlosser for very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Its going to be tough to be in the playoff hunt if the rotation is Teheran, Wood, Santana, Hale, Schlosser for very long.
    Agreed. But no different than if you swapped Garcia for Schlosser (just more expensive).

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