http://www.salon.com/2014/03/25/1085..._is_happening/
10,853 vs. 2
Since it's 99.9%, both sides of the argument need to be given equal attention for debate, it's only fair.
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/25/1085..._is_happening/
10,853 vs. 2
Since it's 99.9%, both sides of the argument need to be given equal attention for debate, it's only fair.
Forever Fredi
My opinion on global warming, we're 100% effecting the environment. It's absolutely moronic to argue otherwise. Even if we lived life leaving as small of a carbon footprint as possible, us surviving means effecting the environment. What the question is, where is the line. Where are we simply inconveniencing ourselves without any benefit?
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
This point is irrelevant to the global warming debate. Always has been and always will be.
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DRILL BABY DRILL!
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local...#ixzz2x20ZikE0
Forever Fredi
So Sav, do you not want to drill at all here in the states or would you rather we get our energy fuel from places like Venezuela and Nigeria where they really pollute the crap out of everything?
I just don't understand the logic of the supposedly pro environment folk. We do actually need fuel and Keanu Reaves isn't going to solve our problem for us anytime soon. This is a point that the environmental nuts seem to always ignore.
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Rather sad we've made technological advances so much, that Tesla is the only pure electric car on the market.
Cars have been in production for a 100 years, high tech computers have only been in production for less than half that time. We have cell phones that do everything a computer can, and we still have cars that run solely on gasoline.
The difference is, there's no point in having a monopoly on electronics, because people know it can upgrade every year. The oil industry has convinced people there's no alternative other than fossil fuel, so anyone hoping Tesla's are going to be mass produced are weary of it. It could've and should've happened long ago by now, but don't tell me there aren't forces that don't want to see gas go away.
Forever Fredi
AerchAngel (03-26-2014), jpx7 (03-26-2014), Julio3000 (03-26-2014)
Tesla isn't th eonly pure electric car on the market. Smart has 2, Fiat has one, Scion has one, Ford has the Focus Electric, Chevy has the Sparq, Nissan Leaf is a midsized, and a few others I'm forgetting. Personally I think plug-in hybrid is the best of both worlds as it can be used as an Ev. But it can use gas for longer range.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
How many of those besides focus looks normal like Tesla. Volt looks normal a little.
Forever Fredi
I'll just ignore the speculation in what is supposed to be a scientific debate. And despite the attempt to side step my question it still must be answered.
We still need fuel, right? American cars only make up a small percentage of CO2 emissions relative to the entire world's CO2 emissions. So where should we get that fuel?
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Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
I have a friend leasing a Leaf in Georgia. There are tax incentives and of course the saved monies on fuel. Considering it requires energy to power the battery my friend has figured he pays .7 cents per mile. Not 7 cents per mile but .7 cents.
It looks like any other 20teen car just smaller and for all intent and purposes is nothing more than a hot rod golf cart.
My family owns a Prius that averages 48-50 mpg. I'm not smart enough to math out what that is per mile. Certain it isn't a fraction of a penny.
I know I can Google this but, aren't Tesla's like over 50K ???
I have been known to bike to work, since it's only a 5-10 minute ride at most.
And no I do not have a Tesla as they're out of my price range currently, at least for another year or two.
I drive a gas gussler, but I hyper mile so instead of getting around 22 city I can push it to 26-28. Dad bought me the car for high school in 08, not my choice but it was affordable since it was towed and repossessed.
Forever Fredi