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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    I don't much care for this series.
    Not surprising. I have doubts you even care about this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
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    The worst possible line up we could throw out this series and we're surprised we got whacked.
    It's a long season. You gotta rest your key guys sometimes.

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    I don't think I am giving too much credit they are 4-2 against us. Rest of the East can't say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    I don't think I am giving too much credit they are 4-2 against us. Rest of the East can't say that.
    Padres were 5-1 against us last year.

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    Only thing that would have made this series worse would have been Craig Counsell. Remember that little ****?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
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    The worst possible line up we could throw out this series and we're surprised we got whacked.
    And you came in a spot start and stunk up the joint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    And you came in a spot start and stunk up the joint.
    I already announced I would no longer participate in GDT creation.
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    Redmonds a damn good manager from what I've been observing. If the Marlins had a fan base, this could be a scary team for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Padres were 5-1 against us last year.
    The Pads aren't in the East which minimized the effect of that. The Fish are dangerous. The 1991 Braves are a good comparison. Great young pitching with a solid offense. Outside of Mil. easily the best team we have faced so far.

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    This is ridiculous from the Braves.

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...weep-in-miami/

    Harang, of course, had a different take:


    "It was baffling, like, where were these guys last week? They were way too comfortable. It seemed like they were all hitting like Ted Williams."

    Aaron, maybe that's because you are Aaron effin Harang and not Jose Fernandez?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    This is ridiculous from the Braves.

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...weep-in-miami/

    Harang, of course, had a different take:


    "It was baffling, like, where were these guys last week? They were way too comfortable. It seemed like they were all hitting like Ted Williams."

    Aaron, maybe that's because you are Aaron effin Harang and not Jose Fernandez?
    Sorry to offend you. Maybe Danny Espinosa has a good quote for us to chew on

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    I wanted to note that Garrett Jones, a former Braves' draft pick and minor leaguer, has carved out a pretty decent career for himself. He never got above Danville for us, but he slowly climbed through the Twins' system and blew up in AA. Never landed a full-time gig in Minnesota, but got to Pittsburgh and proceeded to make himself into a passable major league player.

    This is what I'm talking about when I use the term "development arc." Some guys take longer (a lot longer) and some guys' arc falls short of having true big league talent. There's a lot of guys who end up on the scrap heap after performing the way Jones' did at the rookie league level for the Braves, but somebody with the Twins' organization saw something (of course, the Twins have always had an affinity for big, slow white guys) and Jones managed to seize that opportunity. I wouldn't exactly call that "luck," but there are likely other guys who could have done what Jones has done if circumstances had lined up differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I wanted to note that Garrett Jones, a former Braves' draft pick and minor leaguer, has carved out a pretty decent career for himself. He never got above Danville for us, but he slowly climbed through the Twins' system and blew up in AA. Never landed a full-time gig in Minnesota, but got to Pittsburgh and proceeded to make himself into a passable major league player.

    This is what I'm talking about when I use the term "development arc." Some guys take longer (a lot longer) and some guys' arc falls short of having true big league talent. There's a lot of guys who end up on the scrap heap after performing the way Jones' did at the rookie league level for the Braves, but somebody with the Twins' organization saw something (of course, the Twins have always had an affinity for big, slow white guys) and Jones managed to seize that opportunity. I wouldn't exactly call that "luck," but there are likely other guys who could have done what Jones has done if circumstances had lined up differently.
    Mike Hessman inference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Mike Hessman inference?
    Not at all. Hessman is your classic AAAA guy. I've always known that. He could maybe have found a home at the end of a big league bench in the right situation (there are probably worse guys who have hung around), but Hessman is one of those guys who has to play regularly to play well, but he doesn't play well enough to play regularly. You really can't have that with a bench player.

    My point is that if you look at Jones' rookie league stats, he appeared to be a total wash out and there are folks who look at rookie league stats as being cut in stone when judging a players' chances. It just takes some guys longer.

    Jones' ascent probably says something about how the Braves were coaching their minor league hitters when he was in our system, but it could have just been a bad match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    The Pads aren't in the East which minimized the effect of that. The Fish are dangerous. The 1991 Braves are a good comparison. Great young pitching with a solid offense. Outside of Mil. easily the best team we have faced so far.
    They are not that good. They have so many guys on offense playing over their heads. Dietrich, McGehee, Salty. Yelich and Ozuna will have their growing pains. They have very little pitching outside of Fernandez - Eovaldi has pitched above his head. They are not a team to worry about, this year at least.

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