Why not extremism?

[AerchAngel]

No, you think people in charge should believe what you want to believe. I think people in charge should be cast out and the mold should be broken. I think that the FDA and other government agencies are inherently good, but given enough time become corrupt and should be nuked. I also don't think appointments to it should be handled by the POTUS or executive branch and should be voted upon by the people or at least Congress.

Whoa. I never said that, quite the opposite. I call everyone who takes sides sheep or lemmings, mostly the Democrats as they see no wrong in their party while the Republicans fight amongst themselves. Now those are household words I brought to the old and new board. I even told Okie on several occasions that we need a new 3rd party called the Common Sense party and he and a few others would like to be in that party. It is a party that look down at the Democrats and Republicans because both sides suck so bad that we can't get anything done CORRECTLY in this country.

I know SAV will come in say Obstructionism, but the Democrats would do the same thing if the position were reverse. Why don't you tell the Democrats to propose something that actually works and thoroughly looked over and not half assed (Pelosi infamous line can be inserted here) then some things won't be obstructed.

My big beef with this administration is the lies, deflections, the above Pelosi comment. It seems like there is no ownership of fvck ups and there were a lot of them. If they just say, my bad, my fault, instead of pitiful ass excuses, I might give them a little credibility. I loved Clinton but hated it when he lied and it soured me and now since then, they, the Democrats, makes this the norm. Don't get me started on Bus....errr Cheney, king of liars and he ruined, cough, snuffed out lives, so he is worse. I truly despise that man.

[zitothebrave]

Yeah but you constantly talk about the "common sense party" or any number of other things you've said. That's your political party. I'm against parties period.

Seriously I get your point. You're just not similar to me.

[Krgrecw]

Zito, you've had a history of pretty liberal comments. Pro-Obamacare, throw the book at Zimmerman before it even went to jury, not sticking up for Duck Dynasty, not sticking up for the Clippers owner etc.

[zitothebrave]

I'm not pro-Obamacare. I think Obamacare is an abomination. I've held steady to it. For me it's universal health care or no healthcare at all. Everything in between is ****. I was against Zimmerman because I don't believe in use of deadly force unless necessary. I don't give a **** about Duck Dynasty. I think that he should be allowed to say what he wants and his employer should be allowed to fire him for saying whatever he wants. I haven't really commented on the Clippers owner, so yeah you're pulling that one out of your ass.

Nothing above is overly liberal aside from maybe my belief that deadly force is a last resort.

[AerchAngel]

But you DO have a history, you cannot denied that. But I give you credit, you have done a 180 on a lot of things.

Oh, Common Sense Party was a in-house laugh obviously targeting our two terrible parties in a tongue-n-cheek (common sense!) manner. I despise any party..

[zitothebrave]

I'm liberal leaning, but as a liberal I wouldn't support the Democrats who're barely left of center if they are at all. Being a liberal and democrat are totally different.

[Gary82]

A libertarian would undo the government, and thus, all of the corporate wellfare, subsidies, etc.

lulz.

[Gary82]

The most consistent theme I hear among moderate conservative and moderate liberals is that the empire can't last. The great US empire will fail in the end and it's inevitable. So my argument is that moderate politics is perceived as doomed to fail based on the beliefs of those who are most moderate. So what is the point of moderation? We're inevitably moving toward our end. So why not take a chance on far left or far right? Liberertarianism vs socialism. I'm not against the idea that socialism can't work, I personally believe that we need a mostly robotic country for it to work. If you have robots doing all the non creative work, then why can't socialism be successful? On the other end of the spectrum, why can't libertarianism work? Sure, there might be people left behind, but when in the history of the world have there ever not been people left behind?

And then I ask myself, are we just doomed because of human characteristics no matter what we believe.

libertarianism and socialism are extremism??? Also this thread has been tagged by the NSA.

Sure, there might be people left behind, but when in the history of the world have there ever not been people left behind?

lol

[Hawk]

I'm not pro-Obamacare. I think Obamacare is an abomination. I've held steady to it. For me it's universal health care or no healthcare at all. Everything in between is ****.

Agreed. 100%.

[Krgrecw]

I'm not pro-Obamacare. I think Obamacare is an abomination. I've held steady to it. For me it's universal health care or no healthcare at all. Everything in between is ****. I was against Zimmerman because I don't believe in use of deadly force unless necessary. I don't give a **** about Duck Dynasty. I think that he should be allowed to say what he wants and his employer should be allowed to fire him for saying whatever he wants. I haven't really commented on the Clippers owner, so yeah you're pulling that one out of your ass.

Nothing above is overly liberal aside from maybe my belief that deadly force is a last resort.

I've been banned from scout so I can't pull up old threads but you were pro/Obamacare, anti/gun rights for a while. Do you not think people have a right to free speech? Where does the line stop? Are people not entitled to Thier beliefs as long as it doesn't affect Thier work?



I would think anyone who claims to not be on any side would be 100% pro-rights including the right to free speech.

[zitothebrave]

I'm not pro obamacare, I think some parts are OK like birth control. But I've stated my point over and over and over again. I'm not anti-gun rights, I think all non-insane criminals should have access to a sidearm, rifle, etc. Don't think they should have access to Bazookas or assault rifles or sniper rifles though. What about what I said means that he doesn't have the right to free speech? Did the government infringe on his right to say what he wanted? Not even a little bit. I believe that you have consequences for your actions. If I go to my boss and call him a ****ing jackass should I expect to keep my job?