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    Michael Sam

    Matt Walsh sums up my thoughts quite nicely. link

    I’m not celebrating Michael Sam, I don’t think anything historic occurred at any point during the NFL Draft (besides the fact that the Raiders actually made a few good decisions), I find this spectacle to be rather embarrassing, I question the motivations of everyone involved, including Michael Sam, and I’ll give you several reasons why:

    1) You don’t get to have it both ways. You can tell me that your sexuality is nobody’s business — what you do in your bedroom is between you and whoever you do it with — and I’ll agree. I’ve never taken it upon myself to approach a group of strangers and survey them about their carnal propensities. In my life, I’ve probably had thousands of conversations with thousands of different people. Of those thousands, I can safely say that not once have I begun the exchange by saying, “Hello, my name is Matt. Do you sleep with people of the same gender?”

    Seriously, that’s never happened. OK, maybe I can’t say never, but rarely. The point is, I usually don’t grab strangers by their shirt collars and demand that they paint me a vivid portrait of their erotic activities.

    Your sexuality is none of my business, right? Yes. Fine. Sounds good to me.

    But this “none of my business” shtick is a two way street, friend. What exactly does it mean for a thing to be “none of my business” when you’re holding a press conference and proclaiming it to the entire world?

    “Hey, this is personal, man. That’s why I’m throwing a parade, alerting the media, issuing a press release, having t-shirts printed, and booking an interview on 20/20.”
    Personal business. You keep using that phrase. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

    Michael Sam, apparently, ‘came out’ to his teammates a year ago. By all accounts, they took it well, nobody really cared, and everything continued on as normal. Sam wasn’t hiding in fear and he wasn’t being forced to suppress or disguise anything. But then, mere months before the draft, he decided to declare himself to ESPN and the New York Times.
    I remember seeing this headline back in February: “Michael Sam Announces He’s Gay”

    My first thought: OK, was anybody asking?
    The man pursued national media outlets and, without being provoked or solicited, ‘announced’ his sexual desires to the nation. Why? Because it’s none of our business? Because we should feel nothing and have no opinion on the matter?

    No, of course not. We are supposed to feel something, and we are supposed to have an opinion, but they must be the right feelings and the right opinions.
    That’s the point here.

    If you simply wish to be accepted, perhaps you’d discuss these private details with those closest to you. If you wish to be celebrated, you throw yourself a party and call the press.
    Michael Sam chose the latter.

    2) I don’t know Michael Sam. I know more about Michael Sam than I need to, but I don’t know him as a man. He might be brave, for all I know. Maybe he’s rescued kittens from burning buildings, maybe he’s jumped in front of bullets. I’m not saying that he’s not a hero, but I am saying that telling the world about his sex life sure doesn’t make him one. Ellen Page, Jason Collins, Michael Sam — all of these people were greeted by applause and adulation from all across the country. They were hoisted up and canonized by pop culture, most of mainstream society, most major corporations, most of the media, most of academia, most of our politicians, and the President of the United States of America. Their ‘announcements’ instantly ensured them a protected status and, particularly in the case of Collins and Sam, a fame and cultural relevance they would not have otherwise achieved. The criticisms will come from the fringes, and those critics will be drowned out and beaten back by a shouting, venomous mob of dogmatic progressive zealots.

    Liberal blogs made much ado about the few random Tweets they could find from people expressing disgust about Sam kissing his boyfriend. What these instigators won’t mention is that, in order to get to the ‘bad people,’ they had to wade through thousands of Twitter users falling over themselves in a competition to see who could use the most glowing adjectives to describe watching two men smooch on Sportscenter.

    There’s nothing brave about any of this. You can’t measure a man’s bravery by his ability to endure high-fives and congratulations from millions of fawning fans.
    And heroic?

    To call this heroic is to obliterate the meaning of the word. I’m sure Sam will hear some taunts and jeers, but the people taunting and jeering will be swiftly and immediately punished. He also won’t encounter anywhere near the level of accepted mockery and derision that another well known football player faced, which brings us to…

    3) Plenty of people have already said it, but it’s true that many of the Michael Sam cheerleaders are hypocrites of the lowest sort. Say what you will about Tim Tebow; one thing you can’t deny is that the dude was told loudly, harshly, and frequently, to ‘keep his religion to himself.’ Football isn’t a place for religion, they said.
    But football is a place for sexual identity discussions?

    Other current and former NFL players, like Jake Plummer, said they wished Tebow would “shut up” with the Jesus talk. Plummer was never chastised for making those statements, and no player was ever fined for complaining about Tebow’s overt religiosity. Most people just nodded their head in agreement.

    Will players who tell Sam to “shut up” with the gay talk be treated as leniently? I guess that question has already been answered. One Miami Dolphin sent out a two word disparaging Tweet when ESPN spent 26 hours airing footage of the now famous same-sex kiss. The offender has since been fined and banned from the team until he undergoes ‘educational training.’ Ex-NFLer Derrick Ward expressed his view that ESPN shouldn’t have aired the kiss, and now people are threatening to kill him because of it.

    The double standard is so obvious, so inevitable, and so common that I’m bored with pointing it out. Tell Tebow to stop praising his Lord and Savior, and the country will laugh and cheer along, but tell Sam to stop trying to turn his sex life into international headlines, and you’ll be bound, gagged, and tossed into a river.

    4) Media hacks have already begun conjuring up a controversy over the fact that it ‘took so long’ for Sam to be drafted.

    They’re furrowing their brows and inquiring as to why Saint Michael Sam didn’t get taken off the board until the very end of the last round. Could it be homophobia, they wonder?
    Perhaps, or could it be that Sam is a small, slow, middling prospect who might not be good enough to even make the squad? Could it be that he’s exactly the type of player who often goes undrafted every single year? Could it be that he’s a below average talent?

    With that said, it certainly wouldn’t surprise me if some teams were scared away by the media circus that follows him. That’s a funny thing about football teams — they’re worried about winning football games, not becoming champions for liberal social change. Michael Sam chose to call attention to his sex life. He chose to whip up a media frenzy. That choice guaranteed him a spot on a roster, if only for political reasons. But it also guaranteed that he would be a distraction to whatever team he ultimately joined.
    This is all a joke, only it’s not even funny anymore.

    As I type this, I see that Michael Sam has already started starring in ads, making him, I’m assuming, the first 7th round pick to ever get an endorsement deal before training camp even starts.



    In the Visa spot, Sam insists that he only wants to be judged for what he does on the field.

    A fine sentiment, but one that would have been easily accomplished had he not gone to great lengths to be applauded for what he does in the bedroom.

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    Bad move by the Rams. If Sam doesn't make the Rams, which he probably won't, the liberals are going to have a field day playing the 'anti-homo' card in regards to why Sam didn't make the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Bad move by the Rams. If Sam doesn't make the Rams, which he probably won't, the liberals are going to have a field day playing the 'anti-homo' card in regards to why Sam didn't make the team.
    Sam will make the Rams at least on the practice squad and will sell thousands of jerseys. It's the same **** as when the Jets brought in Tebow despite his clear inability to play football at the professional level.
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    LOL.
    You can't tell me it's not a big deal that an openly gay football player will be in an NFL locker room.
    Hopefully at some point it's not a big deal, but the amount of bigots in this country makes it one. Pretending it doesn't matter or isn't historic is just ignorance or bigotry itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Bad move by the Rams. If Sam doesn't make the Rams, which he probably won't, the liberals are going to have a field day playing the 'anti-homo' card in regards to why Sam didn't make the team.
    typical miserable old republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    LOL.
    You can't tell me it's not a big deal that an openly gay football player will be in an NFL locker room.
    Hopefully at some point it's not a big deal, but the amount of bigots in this country makes it one. Pretending it doesn't matter or isn't historic is just ignorance or bigotry itself.
    Exactly. And arguing that it isn't brave is silly.

    His sex life is his own business. But you can't argue that his sexual orientation is not relevant. There is a clear distinction there that is obtusely (and intentionally) glossed over in that article.

    He and his people made a great business decision for his future. Whispers about his sexuality might have caused him to lose the opportunity to get drafted and prove himself. They made the decision to get out in front of it. Good on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    LOL.
    You can't tell me it's not a big deal that an openly gay football player will be in an NFL locker room.
    Hopefully at some point it's not a big deal, but the amount of bigots in this country makes it one. Pretending it doesn't matter or isn't historic is just ignorance or bigotry itself.
    Say WHAT?!?!

    There have been pretty widely known gay players in the NFL for years. They just didn't announce it to the world, but most players knew about it.

    Don't ask, don't tell, don't care. If you keep saying I just want to be judged as a football player, then why announce it?

    There is already a few Sam documentaries in the works, and the kiss seemed a little "played up" for the camera to me. Heard there is a wait for Sam jerseys a mile long from Ron n Fez on the radio Monday.

    Good for him. Seriously it takes major stones to put yourself out there, but just be prepared to deal with all that follows because... he put himself out there.
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    Agree pretty much 100% with the article. I do wish I was Sam's agent. His team is going to squeeze a fortune out of this.

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    I'm beginning to think Sam is a business genius. Dude is taking huge advantage of this situation. And good for him. I don't have a problem with it at all.

    I will say that I'm incredibly tired of hearing about Sam, but only in the same way I was tired of hearing about Maziel, Tebow, Lebron, etc.

    You can only hear so much about someone before you just get tired of it.
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    A whole thread of people tired of hearing about Michael Sam talking about ------ Michael Sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Say WHAT?!?!

    There have been pretty widely known gay players in the NFL for years. They just didn't announce it to the world, but most players knew about it.

    Don't ask, don't tell, don't care. If you keep saying I just want to be judged as a football player, then why announce it?

    There is already a few Sam documentaries in the works, and the kiss seemed a little "played up" for the camera to me. Heard there is a wait for Sam jerseys a mile long from Ron n Fez on the radio Monday.

    Good for him. Seriously it takes major stones to put yourself out there, but just be prepared to deal with all that follows because... he put himself out there.
    Like who?
    Current players have made comments about it, and they weren't all positive.
    It's also hilarious to compare Tim Tebow to Michael Sam. The two situations are not even remotely similar. But, christians love to act persecuted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    Like who?
    Current players have made comments about it, and they weren't all positive.
    It's also hilarious to compare Tim Tebow to Michael Sam. The two situations are not even remotely similar. But, christians love to act persecuted.
    So the Christians who say that homosexuality is a sin are not persecuted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bj1133 View Post
    So the Christians who say that homosexuality is a sin are not persecuted?
    Like gay people are/have been? Uh, no.
    Their opinion is stupid and bigoted, but they aren't persecuted.

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    It's cool, they pick and choose which parts of the bible to follow, decided to interpret one verse a certain way, and get so hung up on the "rules" of religion instead of the overall principle of acceptance and equality. Me saying this isn't persecution, or restricting them of anything, just pointing out how foolish they are.

    And this has nothing to do with my main point that the Sam situation is not similar to the Tebow situation.

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    Not persecuted?

    The liberal media doesn't persecute them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Not persecuted?

    The liberal media doesn't persecute them?
    LOL. Jesus christ. NO. They don't. Christians run this country. They aren't restricted from doing anything. They get bashed by some people because they want to tell others how to live, even though it doesn't affect them at all. That's not persecution, and it isn't similar to what gays have gone through and continue to go through.

    LOL. Christians are hilarious. They've had it great forever in this country and still feel they're the ones being violated. White privilege, christian privilege, same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post

    You can only hear so much about someone before you just get tired of it.
    You're just upset you weren't the one next to him when he got the phone call and was taken...
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    Maybe he can "convert" Johnny Football and the two of them can ship off to an island in the Pacific. ESPN still wouldn't be tolerable, but it would be a good start.

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    I think liberals are the most hateful and unaccepting group of people in this country, in 2014.

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