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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    And Jason needs to put together a great statline before he gets paid like a great player. I understand that he is the best defensive outfielder in the game but we still need to see a full years worth of great offense outside of his rookie season. There is no reason why he shouldn't have amazing statlines by the end of each season.
    I don't agree. Ichiro got paid like an elite player in his prime and he wasn't better than Jason offensively. He may have looked like it to some with his high averages but his overall offensive game was inferior. However he was a great base runner and elite defender so he got paid. Offense does get paid more than defense but if you are a good offensive player and an elite defender you will get paid big bucks. Jason will be no different even if he doesn't take his offense to the next level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Seems to me Jason has an incredibly high pop up percentage this year… anyone know what it is compared to the league?
    He hits infield flies 19% of the time compared to 9.5% for the league

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    I don't agree. Ichiro got paid like an elite player in his prime and he wasn't better than Jason offensively. He may have looked like it to some with his high averages but his overall offensive game was inferior. However he was a great base runner and elite defender so he got paid. Offense does get paid more than defense but if you are a good offensive player and an elite defender you will get paid big bucks. Jason will be no different even if he doesn't take his offense to the next level.
    Ichiro was a fantastic offensive player. Guy was always on base and had a crazy high success percentage at stealing bases. Regardless of how he got on base he got there. Plus, there was a huge marketing element of Ichiro because of the proximity to Japan. There were a lot of elements of Ichiro that resulted in his high pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    He hits infield flies 19% of the time compared to 9.5% for the league
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Ichiro was a fantastic offensive player. Guy was always on base and had a crazy high success percentage at stealing bases. Regardless of how he got on base he got there. Plus, there was a huge marketing element of Ichiro because of the proximity to Japan. There were a lot of elements of Ichiro that resulted in his high pay
    Ichiro only had an WRC+ over 120 or higher 4 times in his career. Jason already has 3. Ichiro hit for high averages but didn't walk much and had very poor power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Ichiro was a fantastic offensive player. Guy was always on base and had a crazy high success percentage at stealing bases. Regardless of how he got on base he got there. Plus, there was a huge marketing element of Ichiro because of the proximity to Japan. There were a lot of elements of Ichiro that resulted in his high pay
    Huh?
    Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Yikes
    Jason is above average in that regards normally with a career IFFB% 13.8%
    Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Ichiro was a fantastic offensive player. Guy was always on base and had a crazy high success percentage at stealing bases. Regardless of how he got on base he got there. Plus, there was a huge marketing element of Ichiro because of the proximity to Japan. There were a lot of elements of Ichiro that resulted in his high pay
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