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    I think we bring back Huddy for depth, Beachy will start as the long man-6th man in the rotation, Hale is the 7th guy.

    Maholm is gone, that's a certainty.

    But thankfully we've had resources to have depth this year after Huddy and Maholm went down at the same time.

    It'd be smart to put Beachy back in the bullpen for a while like we did with Medlen, and when someone gets injured, slot him right back in the rotation.
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    Sickels top 20 list is due out in a few days. Gonna take my shot at predicting his list/grades.

    1. Lucas Simms B
    2. Christian Bethancourt B
    3. Mauricio Cabrera B-
    4. Jose Peraza B-
    5. JR Graham B-
    6. Cody Martin B-
    7. Jason Hursh B-
    8. David Hale B-
    9. Aaron Northcraft B-
    10. Victor Caratini B-
    11. Tommy La Stella C+
    12. Joey Terdoslavich C+
    13. Carlos Salazar C+
    14. Edward Salcedo C+
    15. Sean Gilmartin C+
    16. Luis Merejo C+
    17. Wes Parsons C+
    18. Kyle Wren C+
    19. Shae Simmons C+
    20. Andry Ubiera C+

    As Sickels always says the order when you get into the C+ range are really interchangeable. I think there is a lot of room for growth in this list as only a few are likely to hit the majors and the highest ceiling guys were in A ball this year. Will also get a comp pick for McCann so likely 2 first round picks added to this list next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Sickels top 20 list is due out in a few days. Gonna take my shot at predicting his list/grades.

    1. Lucas Simms B
    2. Christian Bethancourt B
    3. Mauricio Cabrera B-
    4. Jose Peraza B-
    5. JR Graham B-
    6. Cody Martin B-
    7. Jason Hursh B-
    8. David Hale B-
    9. Aaron Northcraft B-
    10. Victor Caratini B-
    11. Tommy La Stella C+
    12. Joey Terdoslavich C+
    13. Carlos Salazar C+
    14. Edward Salcedo C+
    15. Sean Gilmartin C+
    16. Luis Merejo C+
    17. Wes Parsons C+
    18. Kyle Wren C+
    19. Shae Simmons C+
    20. Andry Ubiera C+

    As Sickels always says the order when you get into the C+ range are really interchangeable. I think there is a lot of room for growth in this list as only a few are likely to hit the majors and the highest ceiling guys were in A ball this year. Will also get a comp pick for McCann so likely 2 first round picks added to this list next year.
    I think you're off on a lot of those plus I can guarantee that Victor Reyes will be a C+/B- plus Johan Camargo and Alec Grosser will be ranked as well. Sims imo will be a B+/A- he's just that good.

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    Sickels loves LaStella. I could see him being a B-.

    Simms at worst will be a B+ and I think Peraza/Cabrera will be B's.
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    Well I agree about LaStella, I thought I had changed him to a B- after I had looked at his last years list for some reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Sickels top 20 list is due out in a few days. Gonna take my shot at predicting his list/grades.

    1. Lucas Simms B
    2. Christian Bethancourt B
    3. Mauricio Cabrera B-
    4. Jose Peraza B-
    5. JR Graham B-
    6. Cody Martin B-
    7. Jason Hursh B-
    8. David Hale B-
    9. Aaron Northcraft B-
    10. Victor Caratini B-
    11. Tommy La Stella C+
    12. Joey Terdoslavich C+
    13. Carlos Salazar C+
    14. Edward Salcedo C+
    15. Sean Gilmartin C+
    16. Luis Merejo C+
    17. Wes Parsons C+
    18. Kyle Wren C+
    19. Shae Simmons C+
    20. Andry Ubiera C+

    As Sickels always says the order when you get into the C+ range are really interchangeable. I think there is a lot of room for growth in this list as only a few are likely to hit the majors and the highest ceiling guys were in A ball this year. Will also get a comp pick for McCann so likely 2 first round picks added to this list next year.
    I think you are too high on Martin and Northcraft and probably a smidge low on Hursh (but I don't know how Sickels grades 1st year guys). I think Hale is more likely a C+, but you're not far off there. How does Sickels handle injuries? It would be difficult for me to rank Merejo at all and give Graham anything more than a C+ given his status. I think Caratini will be "over-ranked" by a lot of folks because of his walks. I don't put much stock in the ability to walk at the Rookie league level. I agree with Jay that Reyes, Camargo, and Grosser may work their way into the discussion (Reyes for sure), but Camargo may be "under-ranked" a bit because he doesn't walk that much.

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    A list without Schlosser is an imcomplete list.

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    I would put Schlosser outside the top 20 but in the top 30.

    My top 30:

    1. Sims
    2. Bethancourt
    3. Peraza
    4. Cabrera
    5. Salcedo
    6. Hursh
    7. Parsons
    8. Caratini
    9. Graham
    10. V Reyes
    11. Martin
    12. Gilmartin
    13. La Stella
    14. Northcraft
    15. Cunningham
    16. Camargo
    17. Hale
    18. Kubitza
    19. Thomas
    20. Wren
    21. Simmons
    22. Elander
    24. Lipka
    24. de la Rosa
    25. C Perez
    26. Jaime
    27. Harper
    28. Schlosser
    29. Cornerly
    30. E Reyes

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    Here's a Top 30 kid to keep an eye on! I heard he may debut stateside as well!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    Here's a Top 30 kid to keep an eye on! I heard he may debut stateside as well!


    I'm excited about him. Another Columbian and he's tall and wiry and can already dial it up to 91-92 with his fastball with good command on both sides of the plate. He really projects well and has clean, repeatable mechanics for someone with so little professional instruction to date. Scouts think he'll be in the mid 90s by the time he matures, barring injury or something else unforeseen in his development.

    We also signed his brother who plays SS, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramadon101 View Post
    I'm excited about him. Another Columbian and he's tall and wiry and can already dial it up to 91-92 with his fastball with good command on both sides of the plate. He really projects well and has clean, repeatable mechanics for someone with so little professional instruction to date. Scouts think he'll be in the mid 90s by the time he matures, barring injury or something else unforeseen in his development.

    We also signed his brother who plays SS, I believe.
    Yes if this kid continues to develop properly he could be sitting mid 90 as his body matures. And he's a lefty with good command to boot! Can't wait to see him in person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramadon101 View Post
    I'm excited about him. Another Columbian and he's tall and wiry and can already dial it up to 91-92 with his fastball with good command on both sides of the plate. He really projects well and has clean, repeatable mechanics for someone with so little professional instruction to date. Scouts think he'll be in the mid 90s by the time he matures, barring injury or something else unforeseen in his development.

    We also signed his brother who plays SS, I believe.
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    I'm glad I found this page. Lot's of familiar names around here.

    Anyway, I can't be the only one that feels like Salcedo is little more than hype at this point. I understand that he's young for his league, but at some point, potential has to become production. He improved his walk rate and cut down on the k rate this past year, but he's still a guy that strikes out a lot with limited power that isn't a very good defender for his position. Overall, this is a poor contact hitter with limited power and an average eye at the plate who is posting sub 0.700 OPS's in his last two stops in the minors.

    Honestly, I think Kyle Kubitza is a better overall prospect.

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    And Kubitza has better contact? Kubitza's walk numbers are really the only area where there is much differential between him and Salcedo offensively.

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    When does the board feel it is a good time for an updated prospects list? After winter meetings?

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