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Thread: #65 GDT 6/12: BRAVES (Santana 5-2) at ROCKIES (Chacin 0-4), 3:10

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    Josh Rutledge is hitting .500 w/ 1.215 OPS at home.

    .240 w/ .792 on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Is it bad when they are healthy or is it that there are too many negatives in the lineup? I feel like we have really talented players.
    Its a bad lineup. What do we have?

    Expectations:

    Freeman and J-Up .850ish OPS
    Gattis .800-.850
    Heyward .750-.775
    Johnson .750
    BJ .650-.700
    La Stella .675-.700
    Simmons .675-.700

    And no bench at all.
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    NL Average OPS is 700. That is around a 700 OPS based on your projections. I just don't know what it is honestly. It just seems the guys can never hit at the same time.
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    TLS needs to be in the two hole.

    Heyward
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    J-Upt
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    NL Average OPS is 700. That is around a 700 OPS based on your projections. I just don't know what it is honestly. It just seems the guys can never hit at the same time.

    Some of those were pretty optimistic though(homeristic).

    Average OBP is .312, the Braves could realistically have 4 or 5 guys below that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    TLS needs to be in the two hole.

    Heyward
    TLS
    J-Upt
    Freeman
    Gattis
    Johnson
    BJ
    Simmons
    I completely agree that the lineup being changed around helps a lot. TLS not being at the top of the lineup is complete ignorance from Fredi. I'd almost move Freddie and Justin around:
    Heyward
    TLS
    JUP
    Freeman
    Gattis
    Johnson
    BJ
    Simba

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    Fair enough...I do agree that Wrens affinity towards power has really hurt the team because it comes at the expense of OBP. Guys like Gattis/Simmons are fine because they are at premium positions but these other guys not getting on base (BJ/CJ) are killing us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Fair enough...I do agree that Wrens affinity towards power has really hurt the team because it comes at the expense of OBP. Guys like Gattis/Simmons are fine because they are at premium positions but these other guys not getting on base (BJ/CJ) are killing us.
    Only partially. Wren's affinity towards slugs like Upton the Elder and Uggla creates a hole in the budget and line-up.

    Move La Stella if you'd like. I'm not a huge believer in line-up construction making that much of a difference, but he's the only guy really hitting now.

    I'm of the opinion that Simmons is going to be the most frustrating offensive player we will see in many a year. Good contact guy, but doesn't put the ball in play with that much authority. He's a glove guy, so he more than earns his keep, but the guy has rally killer written all over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Only partially. Wren's affinity towards slugs like Upton the Elder and Uggla creates a hole in the budget and line-up.

    Move La Stella if you'd like. I'm not a huge believer in line-up construction making that much of a difference, but he's the only guy really hitting now.

    I'm of the opinion that Simmons is going to be the most frustrating offensive player we will see in many a year. Good contact guy, but doesn't put the ball in play with that much authority. He's a glove guy, so he more than earns his keep, but the guy has rally killer written all over him.
    I agree with the majority of this. The biggest killer for us was signing BJ Upton. I like BJ, I've always been a big fan of the guy, but that killed us. I can't even imagine how much better this team could be if we got someone else. Without Dan, this team is visibly better but not enough to where it's gonna win us consistent games. Nonetheless, this team needs another consistent BP arm, preferably a lefty and a change of the bench. Not resigning Reed Johnson killed us. Little things will do it for you from year-to-year.

    Also, how is this awful Chacin dude getting so luck? I call it luck because he sucks, I don't really care, it is.

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    Hope the team keeps forgetting to let Stella! in on Walker's meetings.

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    No patience at the plate again today. That kids pitching count was so low last night through six.

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    Smh this team minus La Stella looks like they're ready to board the plane smh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    Smh this team minus La Stella looks like they're ready to board the plane smh.
    At least we know it won't hit anything with them inside.

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    'Absolute joke that we are getting ready to give this scrub his first win of the season after being basically shutdown by a middle of the road AAA pitcher who was struggling with his control before being called up. The numbers posted on our offense so far this year compared last year is very telling. Hey, Greg Walker! You have any ideas???

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    I can figure out who Santana is. He absolutely cruises and then gives up homers out of nowhere. I like him, but I don't trust him at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    I can figure out who Santana is. He absolutely cruises and then gives up homers out of nowhere. I like him, but I don't trust him at all.
    It's ****ing Colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    It's ****ing Colorado.
    You know that I understand that. You act like this hasn't happened in Colorado alone. It's been this way the last 5+ starts or so.

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    The numbers I'm referring to were posted during the first inning on the broadcast on SportSouth, btw.

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    Aren't the Braves playing in Coors Field too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    You know that I understand that. You act like this hasn't happened in Colorado alone. It's been this way the last 5+ starts or so.
    Before today, he had allowed a total of 5 all year. It is Colorado.

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