Like I said, you could manage this team better than Fredi.Originally Posted by jsebe10
Like I said, you could manage this team better than Fredi.
Send Hale down and DL Carpenter and get two extra arms.
I dunno what else that man needs to see....Something has to be done...
Christ....Kendrick has an ERA over 4....gonna be a long night tomorrow
NinersSBChamps (06-16-2014)
I used to think people were crazy for saying Freddy is a horrible manager but no more. Why use varvaro in the 11th when he knew hale was avaliable? Varvaro pitched 2 innings yesterday for god sake. How long is it going to take for the players to start questioning Freddy's moves?
Is it really fair to use Upton's stats to bring down what Heyward has done? He's been on base in what like 32 of his last 35 games and most of those K's are BJ's too.
All you need is Hart and Cox.
jason27nc (06-16-2014)
Who are those two arms? How about when Freddy uses varvaro till his arm falls off who replaces him?
The usual suspects are more than likely not available until maybe Wednesday at the earlier. Schlosser started tonight and Thomas went 3 innings either tonight or yesterday.
Probably not but it was intended to make the point that 1 and 2 need a shake...Heyward is 8 for his last 45
I don't know what this team needs other then a complete shake up outside of the starting staff. This offense is a joke and even if we get to the postseason who are we beating really? We are one of the few offenses that can have the bases loaded with no outs and the hitter is the one who's in trouble not the pitcher. The offense has been worse then I think a lot of us could have fathomed.
Where to you put Bj in any other place in the order he's actually hit worse then when he's in the two hole. Hell at this point if rather see a pitcher hitting then Bj.
Heyward's fine. His k percentage is low, the power is way up and his LD% is about the same. A lower BABip is what is hurting him and that will even out. He's still having a good month. If Freeman wasn't going to get moved down despite being horrific for the better part of a month then Jason isn't going to be moved down based on a subpar week. That would just be silly.
All you need is Hart and Cox.
jason27nc (06-16-2014)
Heyward has hit safely in 6 out of his last 9 games. I am telling you if Jason had a better hitter behind him he would see better pitches to hit.
Braves1976 (06-16-2014), JohnAdcox (06-17-2014)
Plus, someone please tell me why Greg Walker still has a job?
Which makes sense because the percentage of fastballs he sees has been going way down this month. He's definitely seeing less pitches in the zone.
Last edited by BremanFan88; 06-16-2014 at 11:57 PM.
All you need is Hart and Cox.
Braves1976 (06-16-2014)
At this point I almost wish pap had gotten the job done a 1-0 loss looks better then a 6-1 loss. Although it doesn't help that hale was not able to limit this and not allow a huge inning.
The crux of the problem here--at least to me--is that Carpenter didn't get through the 9th on Sunday night and his ineffectiveness then forced the use of Kimbrel. If Carpenter does his job on Sunday, Kimbrel is available last night. Of course, it doesn't matter who is on the mound if we can't score in extra innings.
I was only watching on Gameday and was a little surprised when Fredi went to Varvaro (who I have always like more than most in here) instead of Hale last night. Hale is probably the next guy heading to Gwinnett and going into the rotation there.
Like I said, shuffling things around now is just like moving the chairs around on the Titanic.
Justin Upton had one of the worst at bats I've ever seen last night with Freeman on 3rd and Shaffer on 1st. They had zero intentions of throwing him anything hittable and he just windmills at everything 2 feet from the plate eventually hitting a mighty infield pop up.
Second deck chairs on the Titanic analogy. I think gilesfan was the other one to use it. Great minds think alike I suppose.
Third. At some point, you have to question the structure of the team and evaluate Frank Wren for some of the poor free agent decisions he made. Dan Uggla, BJ Upton, the Chris Johnson extension, giving up a 1st round pick for Ervin Santana. This team owes Dan Uggla $24 million and is getting nothing out of him. Soon, they will be owing BJ Upton a lot of money to only get minimal production out of him. Honestly, the players that are keeping this team afloat right now are Jason Heyward, Freddie Freeman, Evan Gattis, and Julio Teheran.
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