MLB Trade Deadline Discussion

[gilesfan]

Is Beane now going to target a hitter? He has plenty of chips to get a more productive hitter than Cespedes and have Gomes as a RH bench for lefties.

[gilesfan]

I figured Samardzija had a decent contract. Either way, they are definitely adding some payroll which would have been a no-no 10 years ago.

They've added roughly 20 million this year.

[CyYoung31]

On what basis?

Lester is a legit top of the rotation starter in the AL and has been through the grind of the playoffs. Cespedes is a career .262/.318/.464 hitter with below average defense.

This trade makes zero sense for the Red Sox.

I'll take Cespedes in CF. BJ 4th outfielder. Schafer released.

[gilesfan]

I'll take Cespedes in CF. BJ 4th outfielder. Schafer released.

There are hundreds of players I'd take in CF over BeeeJ

[BRule]

Ces a FA after next year as well.......don't get this trade for Boston at all.

[thethe]

I figured Samardzija had a decent contract. Either way, they are definitely adding some payroll which would have been a no-no 10 years ago.

Yeah, I think baseball is doing very well so all teams have money to spend. Good for the A's and I hope they win a WS this year (unless they play the Braves). Beane does a fantastic job and seems to get better with every year.

[nsacpi]

Don't like either the Lester or Samardzija trades for the A's.

[thethe]

Don't like either the Lester or Samardzija trades for the A's.

I liked the Lester deal more than the Samardzija. Still don't get trading Russel.

[weso1]

Ces a FA after next year as well.......don't get this trade for Boston at all.

Their OF is terrible. So now next year they have a 3 win player out there, which significantly improves it. Plus 2 early round picks (one for the trade and one for Cespedes if they don't sign him).

[CyYoung31]

Their OF is terrible. So now next year they have a 3 win player out there, which significantly improves it. Plus 2 early round picks (one for the trade and one for Cespedes if they don't sign him).

Yeah, makes sense. Lester is a FA after the year. They weren't going to get a haul of prospects for him.

[thethe]

Yeah, makes sense. Lester is a FA after the year. They weren't going to get a haul of prospects for him.

And a lot of people feel they will just be able to sign him this offseason.

[BRule]

Last 2 years + this year:

Total WAR : Ces - 7.5 / Lester - 11.9

Total Value : Ces - 36.8 mil / Lester - 60.3

Again.....this isn't close.

[weso1]

Last 2 years + this year:

Total WAR : Ces - 7.5 / Lester - 11.9

Total Value : Ces - 36.8 mil / Lester - 60.3

Again.....this isn't close.

But you aren't figuring in the picks and the fact that the Sox get Cespedes for a whole year and the A's only have Lester for two months.

[BRule]

But you aren't figuring in the picks and the fact that the Sox get Cespedes for a whole year and the A's only have Lester for two months.

What are the chances the comp pick is as good as Lester? MLB draft is a needle in haystack venture.....Sox are going to be bad next year and Ces is gone after that, the trade just makes no sense. Why not trade Lester for prospect, if teams won't give you a top 2 prospect then aim lower. Sox are obviously rebuilding and won't compete this year or next, Ces does nothing to help them.

Red Sox are being cheap bastards, if you aren't going to give Lester 120 mil who the hell are you going to pay? Lester easily gets over 120 on open market, plus they only offered him 90 mil? Total slap in the face

[zbhargrove]

But you aren't figuring in the picks and the fact that the Sox get Cespedes for a whole year and the A's only have Lester for two months.

Not to mention, Boston isn't going anywhere this year and is likely to resign Lester again in the offseason... there is absolutely no reason to hate this trade for the Sox.

[BRule]

Not to mention, Boston isn't going anywhere this year and is likely to resign Lester again in the offseason... there is absolutely no reason to hate this trade for the Sox.

If the Sox only offered him 90 mil and now he's going to hit the market and get easily over 120....probably 140-150....what makes you think Lester is going to sign there?

[zbhargrove]

What are the chances the comp pick is as good as Lester? MLB draft is a needle in haystack venture.....Sox are going to be bad next year and Ces is gone after that, the trade just makes no sense. Why not trade Lester for prospect, if teams won't give you a top 2 prospect then aim lower. Sox are obviously rebuilding and won't compete this year or next, Ces does nothing to help them.

Red Sox are being cheap bastards, if you aren't going to give Lester 120 mil who the hell are you going to pay? Lester easily gets over 120 on open market, plus they only offered him 90 mil? Total slap in the face

I bet you anything Lester resigns with them... so they get the comp pick and him back... no brainer. We have no idea, they may already have a handshake deal in place under the table. Lester would certainly want to have the improved team if he came back.

[zbhargrove]

If the Sox only offered him 90 mil and now he's going to hit the market and get easily over 120....probably 140-150....what makes you think Lester is going to sign there?

I don't know, the fact that he said he'd like to sign back with them? lol... look there are plenty of reports, but the fact is, in baseball... we have zero idea about actual offer numbers or negotiations.

[weso1]

What are the chances the comp pick is as good as Lester? MLB draft is a needle in haystack venture.....Sox are going to be bad next year and Ces is gone after that, the trade just makes no sense. Why not trade Lester for prospect, if teams won't give you a top 2 prospect then aim lower. Sox are obviously rebuilding and won't compete this year or next, Ces does nothing to help them.

Red Sox are being cheap bastards, if you aren't going to give Lester 120 mil who the hell are you going to pay? Lester easily gets over 120 on open market, plus they only offered him 90 mil? Total slap in the face

Sox could compete next year depending on their offseason moves. A year of Cespedes for 2 months of Lester in and of itself is an even deal for the Sox. The two picks are icing on the cake. Sox don't see a lot of value in spending a bunch of money on a 31 year old starter. I can see their argument.

[gilesfan]

Not to mention, Boston isn't going anywhere this year and is likely to resign Lester again in the offseason... there is absolutely no reason to hate this trade for the Sox.

Boston gets Cespedes for 1 year at what costs? And now they are pressured to sign Cespedes for a longer deal, which I'm sure he will want and get some crazy 15 million dollar a year contract or something insane like that. So whether Lester comes back to the Sox or not, why wouldn't you take prospects that are give you the chance to improve over the long haul?