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    MINORS FINAL 7/3: Dykstra Makes His Early Mark

    The next player you've never heard of likely to climb onto the Braves' top prospect list is a right-handed reliever by the name of Ramon Moreno. A surprisingly old 24, the Dominican has been the backbone of the Braves' best DSL team in recent memory. He has appeared in 13 games so far, with a 2-1 record and seven saves, including five in his last eight appearances.

    Boy throws strikes: only one walk in 15 innings vs. 11 strikeouts, but 13 hits allowed. He gave up four of those hits in one bat outing June 17, and has not allowed one in his last five outings. Why so old for a DSL rookie? The media guide sheds no light on his, as he signed as a FA in December, likely out of a tryout camp. He is quite probably a literal rags to riches story if he continues to mow hitters down. Wish we knew more about the DSL guys!

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    THURSDAY BOX SCORES

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    CLASS AAA

    Durham 5, Gwinnett 3

    LP: Schlosser (4-4) 6 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 4 BB, 3 K.
    Pastornicky 3-5. (.311)
    Cunningham 2-4, 2 R, RBI, SB.
    Terdoslavich 2-5, R.

    CLASS AA

    Mississippi 7, Huntsville 3

    WP: Atkins (3-0) 6 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 4 K.
    Fassold 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K.
    Peraza 3-5, 2 2B, 2 R, SB.
    Kubitza 2-4, 3B, R, 3 RBIs, 2 E (19).
    Rohm 3-4, 2B, 2 R.
    Loman 3-4, R, RBI.

    ADVANCED CLASS A

    Carolina 10, Lynchburg 4

    LP: Watts (0-2) 4.1 IP, 7 H, 6 ER, 4 BB, 2 K.
    Landoni 2-3, 2 R. (.341)
    E. Garcia 1-2, R, 2 RBIs.
    Skinner 1-3, 2B.
    Brown 1-4, 2B.

    CLASS A

    Augusta 3, Rome 2

    SP: Diaz 3.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 4 K.
    Barker 2.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K. (Rome debut)
    LP: Vail (BS, 0-3) 2 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 2 K.
    Giardina 1-3, RBI.
    Lien 1-3, RBI, SB.

    SHORT-SEASON

    Danville 5, Burlington 3

    16 total strikeouts by D-Braves.
    SP: Povse 2 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K.
    WP: Miranda (1-0) 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K.
    Dirks (Save, 2) 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K.
    Godfrey 2-4, 2B, 2 R, 2 SB.
    Edgerton 0-2, 2 RBIs, 2 SF.
    Kreitemeier 1-2, 2B, 2 RBIs, 2 BB.

    GCL Phillies 6 GCL Braves 5

    SP: Santana 5 IP, 9 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 2 K.
    Gunther 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K. (rehab)
    LP: Dettman (0-2) 1.2 IP, 1 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 0 K.
    Dykstra 4-4, 2B, R, RBI, BB.
    Didder 2-5, 3B, R, RBI, SB.


    DSL BlueJays 7, DSL Braves 2

    Managed only 3 hits.
    LP: L. Barrios (1-4) 2 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 4 BB, 4 K.
    T. Josephina 1-3, 3B, RBI.
    Cortes 1-4, 2B, R.
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    Ryan Gunther makes his 2014 debut with a scoreless inning in the GCL. My guess is he'll be in Danville or Rome when deemed healthy. Anyone know what type of injury he suffered that held him back this season.

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    Luke Dykstra has been pretty good so far! 3-3, 2B, BB so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    Luke Dykstra has been pretty good so far! 3-3, 2B, BB so far.
    Ended 4-4. It's way early and he's played a ton of baseball at a young age so that has to be taken into account, but there's no question he's launched himself impressively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    Luke Dykstra has been pretty good so far! 3-3, 2B, BB so far.
    4 for 4 with a walk. Batting .500. Not bad.

    Middle name is Avery. Destined for great things as a Brave.

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    I love these young guys that are coming in and taking WALKS! It is so refreshing to see the plate discipline of some of these young guys like Albies, Dykstra, Edgerton. Love seeing more walks than strikeouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    I love these young guys that are coming in and taking WALKS! It is so refreshing to see the plate discipline of some of these young guys like Albies, Dykstra, Edgerton. Love seeing more walks than strikeouts.
    Walk rates and to a lesser extent strikeout rates have been shown to help predict prospect success. There will always be a few that defy that. But I'd much rather have a group of prospects with a hitting profile like La Stella than like Bethancourt.

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    Anyone here speak Spanish/Papiamento or whatever Ray-Patrick Didder is speaking in this interview with Claret Lopez?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Walk rates and to a lesser extent strikeout rates have been shown to help predict prospect success. There will always be a few that defy that. But I'd much rather have a group of prospects with a hitting profile like La Stella than like Bethancourt.
    Exactly! I want more prospects that show a good eye at the plate even if it comes with sacrificing some power. The Braves have too many swing for the 3 run homer type than put the ball in play/walk type players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Walk rates and to a lesser extent strikeout rates have been shown to help predict prospect success. There will always be a few that defy that. But I'd much rather have a group of prospects with a hitting profile like La Stella than like Bethancourt.
    Does the research on walk rates get down to the rookie league level? I've never done a comprehensive analysis, but it just seems to me that there are more than a few guys (especially college level players) who walk quite a bit in the minors, but can't hold the rate all the way up the chain because they can't hit. I have looked at league walk rates and I'm surprised they aren't that much higher in rookie ball than in higher leagues, but the standard deviation in talent that is on the mound is pretty wide in rookie ball and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to wait for the pitcher to throw strikes (which often doesn't happen).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Does the research on walk rates hold at the rookie league level? I've never done a comprehensive analysis, but it just seems to me that there are more than a few guys (especially college level players) who walk quite a bit in the minors, but can't hold the rate all the way up the chain because they can't hit. I have looked at league walk rates and I'm surprised they aren't that much higher in rookie ball than in higher leagues, but the standard deviation in talent that is on the mound is pretty wide in rookie ball and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to wait for the pitcher to throw strikes (which often doesn't happen).
    The research suggests that walk rates at the rookie league level are not that important. AA is the time when you want to start paying attention to them.

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/201...keouts-success
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    Kubitza has to be considered a legit option for the 25 man next year now IMO.
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    No he doesn't. He will start next year in AAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Kubitza has to be considered a legit option for the 25 man next year now IMO.
    It may not be saying much, but he is probably the best bat in the system right now not named Jose Peraza.

    I tell you something else as well. With the way Elmer Reyes has hit with his promotion to AAA ball, along with Phil Gosselin's production this year, there will be very little reason to keep Dan Uggla on the roster for much longer. Right now, it is obvious that the Braves would rather play with a 24 man roster than just pay Uggla to go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    It may not be saying much, but he is probably the best bat in the system right now not named Jose Peraza.

    I tell you something else as well. With the way Elmer Reyes has hit with his promotion to AAA ball, along with Phil Gosselin's production this year, there will be very little reason to keep Dan Uggla on the roster for much longer. Right now, it is obvious that the Braves would rather play with a 24 man roster than just pay Uggla to go away.
    Yeah, its good to produce these plug in guys who can fill out a rotation. I'm just hoping that Kubitza is a big more than that.
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    He strikes out a lot and doesn't have much home run power. Great eye but his walk rate will fall as pitchers challenge him. Looks like a bench guy to me.

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    I'm fine with guys that have doubles power and work the counts. We need more guys like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The research suggests that walk rates at the rookie league level are not that important. AA is the time when you want to start paying attention to them.

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/201...keouts-success
    Thanks.

    I know the author doesn't contend that his research is foolproof, but Aaron Hicks seems to deviate from his findings. Guy has walked at all levels, including the majors and hasn't struck out that much, but he has no power and simply can't put the ball in play with much authority. I think batting average can be very misleading, but it still does matter.

    To others above who have commented on Uggla, I don't see a single reason why he should still be on the team.
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    Nineteen year old Luis Miranda continues to impress in Danville.

    2 1 0 0 1 4 in relief last night. 12 strikeouts and 2 walks so far in 8 innings.

    Guy was skipped directly to Danville from the DSL last year.

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    Cedric Hunter is having a rather decent year in AA. He's 26 and a former Padre farmhand but he has been in the majors before and isn't relatively old. 30 XBH in 227 AB's and walking as much as he's k'ing. Also is hitting at a .317 clip with a 900+OPS.

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