Israel

[zitothebrave]

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[AerchAngel]

The media lying?

You don't say.

Well, we can't support the terrorists, now can we?

[BedellBrave]

What are they lying about?

[BedellBrave]

Are militants firing rockets at Israel?

[Krgrecw]

Are militants firing rockets at Israel?

Don't even waste your breath. It's always going to be Israel's fault.

[BedellBrave]

After? Come now Z. I'm no "Israel does everything right" guy. But that ain't the truth.

[Krgrecw]

"At least 231 Palestinians have been killed so far, including 39 children, and more than 1,700 injured. One Israeli has been killed by rocket fire from Gaza."

Those sneaky Hamas, letting more of their people die so Israel looks bad.

"Of the Palestinians killed so far in Operation Protective Edge, at least 67 were women and children and 11 were elderly, according to Ashraf al-Qedra, spokesman for the Gaza Health Ministry. More than 1,500 people have been injured, and Gaza hospitals have reported severe medical supply shortages."

Didn't Hamas shot first?

[thethe]

Not perhaps. They did. Israel doesn't help themselves by being so aggressive but this was provoked by Hamas. There is no question about that. If you want to say everything is a lie then you are entitled to believe that but then there is nothing that can be said to change your mind.

[Julio3000]

After watching enough repetitions of this, whether with rocks or rockets, the "but they shot first" justification looks thinner and thinner.

[Tapate50]

"At least 231 Palestinians have been killed so far, including 39 children, and more than 1,700 injured. One Israeli has been killed by rocket fire from Gaza."

Those sneaky Hamas, letting more of their people die so Israel looks bad.

"Of the Palestinians killed so far in Operation Protective Edge, at least 67 were women and children and 11 were elderly, according to Ashraf al-Qedra, spokesman for the Gaza Health Ministry. More than 1,500 people have been injured, and Gaza hospitals have reported severe medical supply shortages."

This is not England, US, or any other civilized area. This is an area of the world where no one values human life like we do. Civilians, militants, women, children, make no difference in that area of the world.

[Krgrecw]

Not perhaps. They did. Israel doesn't help themselves by being so aggressive but this was provoked by Hamas. There is no question about that. If you want to say everything is a lie then you are entitled to believe that but then there is nothing that can be said to change your mind.

Zito has to be anti-Semitic. It's Only way he can possibly be so blind. Hamas continuously breaks cease fires and launches rockets into israel but he feels like israel shouldn't have the right to defend itself.

[thethe]

Zito has to be anti-Semitic. It's Only way he can possibly be so blind. Hamas continuously breaks cease fires and launches rockets into israel but he feels like israel shouldn't have the right to defend itself.

Unfortunately, I learned growing up that a lot of people are anti-Semitic. It never surprises me to learn someone else is. I kind of expect it. Jews have been persecuted since the rise of the Roman empire (I choose not to discuss ancient Egypt). For anyone to criticize how the Jewish people protect themselves is not considering what has been done to them historically. Israel has reason to believe that at any moment their fall will come.

[AerchAngel]

Unfortunately, I learned growing up that a lot of people are anti-Semitic. It never surprises me to learn someone else is. I kind of expect it. Jews have been persecuted since the rise of the Roman empire (I choose not to discuss ancient Egypt). For anyone to criticize how the Jewish people protect themselves is not considering what has been done to them historically. Israel has reason to believe that at any moment their fall will come.

When that come, the world will end because Israel will take everyone with them.

They will nuke the whole region and say Fvck you to everyone. This is why Saudi and Egypt don't fvck with them, one missile to the dam, bye bye Egypt, Mecca and Medina would be scorched. Iran is protected due to distance but no way could beat Israel one on one.

[Krgrecw]

Egypt said that Hamas bought this upon themselves by not agreeing to the ceasefire that they proposed.



In That part of the world, wars and battles are fought in neighborhood streets and not on some beaches, deserts or hillsides that most battles take place. Unfortunately and sadly there are and will be many innocent deaths but if Hamas wouldn't keep shooting rockets into Israeli neighborhoods this wouldn't be happening.

[Hawk]

Egypt said that Hamas bought this upon themselves by not agreeing to the ceasefire that they proposed.

Hamas had zero incentive to agree to the terms of the Egyptian ceasefire, which heavily favored the Israelis.

[The Chosen One]

No fan of Hamas but this is like US vs. War on Terror in a smaller scale.

We keep killing their innocents and expect them to be just dandy with it. Israel keeps oppressing Palestinians (whom btw no arab country really cares about) and they're surprised when Hamas does that stuff.

[Krgrecw]

Hamas had zero incentive to agree to the terms of the Egyptian ceasefire, which heavily favored the Israelis.

That could be true but there wouldnt need to be a ceasefire if Hamas wouldn't keep shooting rockets in Israel.

Egypt was basically saying 'Hamas quit your **** and Israel won't **** with you' but Hamas didn't agree to that. I think we can all agree whether or not the cease fire was agreed to, Hamas would still shoot another rocket into israel within a year or two.

[Krgrecw]

[QUOTE=KeithLockhart;135719]No fan of Hamas but this is like US vs. War on Terror in a smaller scale.

We keep killing their innocents and expect them to be just dandy with it. Israel keeps oppressing Palestinians (whom btw no arab country really cares about) and they're surprised when Hamas does that stuff.[/QUOTE


Here is the Muslims are nice and they do no wrong liberal view point.

So Hamas shoots rockets into Israeli neighborhoods periodically and Israel finally responds. How is that Israel's fault again?
Hamas keeps killing Israeli civilians why should Israel be dandy with that?

[The Chosen One]

[QUOTE=Krgrecw;135723]

No fan of Hamas but this is like US vs. War on Terror in a smaller scale.

We keep killing their innocents and expect them to be just dandy with it. Israel keeps oppressing Palestinians (whom btw no arab country really cares about) and they're surprised when Hamas does that stuff.[/QUOTE


Here is the Muslims are nice and they do no wrong liberal view point.

So Hamas shoots rockets into Israeli neighborhoods periodically and Israel finally responds. How is that Israel's fault again?
Hamas keeps killing Israeli civilians why should Israel be dandy with that?

Here are the Israelis, and they can absolutely do no wrong conservative view point.

[Tapate50]

No fan of Hamas but this is like US vs. War on Terror in a smaller scale.

We keep killing their innocents and expect them to be just dandy with it. Israel keeps oppressing Palestinians (whom btw no arab country really cares about) and they're surprised when Hamas does that stuff.

LOL.

serious question, if Israel stopped responding to attacks for lets say 5 years... you think this issue would go away or get worse?

10? 20?