With 2 300 game winners going into the hall tomorrow and Randy Johnson not far behind, who do you think has the best chance to be the next 300 game winner?
My guess is Kershaw. He won his 89th tonight and is still pretty young heading into his prime. 26 years old if he pitches another 12 years he would have to average 17 wins a year to get to 300. Makes you realize how special mad dog and glav were
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AerchAngel (07-27-2014), The Chosen One (07-26-2014), UNCBlue012 (07-28-2014)
Depending on health Sabbathia might have a shot. He's 34 and has a bit over 200 wins. Of course he might be on the decline. 300 is a lot more than it used to be. Pitchers keep getting fewer and fewer decisions.
Only thing with c.c. is his knee is going to prevent him from getting thereOriginally Posted by Coredor
I don't expect to see another 300-game winner in my lifetime.
cajunrevenge (07-27-2014), Garmel (07-27-2014), NinersSBChamps (07-26-2014), NYCBrave (07-28-2014), VirginiaBrave (07-27-2014)
What's king Felix at? I imagine he should be on a decent pace
Dilmer Mejia.
A year ago, I would have said Felix Falcon. You never know...
Felix assuming he pitches for another 12 yrs effectively.
Hope it's Julio Teheran! Actually if I were gambling I'd guess Cole Hammels (assuming he gets traded in a year or two).
Felix.
I can't believe Felix has 10 years in already. If he'd played for a better club I'd give him a shot. He's not gonna do it, though.
The answer is nobody. Sabathia was peoples choice for a long time but he's finally hit the injury bug and isn't what he once was. The same thing will happen to Kershaw too.
Felix doesn't get enough wins... Mainly because his supporting team has been awful throughout his years.
The truth is you don't know. Sabathia has a shot though not very good. Same with King Felix. Kershaw maybe.
In the end health will be the biggest factor as well as surrounding talent. If the Mariners get good and King Felix racks up 20 win seasons he could get to a similar point as CC and he's not as fat so shouldn't break down.
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I don't think any of them will. Its mainly finesse guys that to go that number it seems also.
What about Madison Bumgardner? He's two years younger (well age/season wise) than Kershaw and only has 28 less wins. He may have just as much of a shot as Kershaw, even tho Kershaw is better.
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I expect Gio, Zimmerman, and Stras will win 350 games each.
Julio3000 (07-28-2014), UNCBlue012 (07-28-2014)
Top 50 Active Wins leaders.....Huddy leading the pack
Rank Player (yrs, age) Wins Throws
1. Tim Hudson (16, 38) 213 R
2. CC Sabathia (14, 33) 208 L
3. Bartolo Colon (17, 41) 198 R
4. Mark Buehrle (15, 35) 196 L
5. A.J. Burnett (16, 37) 153 R
6. John Lackey (12, 35) 149 R
7. Justin Verlander (10, 31) 146 R
8. Bronson Arroyo (15, 37) 145 R
9. Cliff Lee (13, 35) 143 L
10. Kyle Lohse (14, 35) 140 R
11. Johan Santana (12, 35) 139 L
12. Josh Beckett (14, 34) 138 R
13. Dan Haren (12, 33) 137 R
14. Jake Peavy (13, 33) 133 R
Randy Wolf (15, 37) 133 L
16. Ryan Dempster (16, 37) 132 R
17. Jered Weaver (9, 31) 124 R
18. Felix Hernandez (10, 28) 121 R
Jason Marquis (14, 35) 121 R
20. Aaron Harang (13, 36) 119 R
Brad Penny (13, 36) 119 R
22. Zack Greinke (11, 30) 118 R
23. Ervin Santana (10, 31) 114 R
24. Adam Wainwright (9, 32) 112 R
25. Jon Lester (9, 30) 110 L
26. James Shields (9, 32) 109 R
27. Cole Hamels (9, 30) 104 L
Joel Pineiro (12, 35) 104 R
29. Brett Tomko (14, 41) 100 R
30. Tim Lincecum (8, 30) 98 R
31. Matt Cain (10, 29) 95 R
Jamey Wright (19, 39) 95 R
33. Ricky Nolasco (9, 31) 94 R
34. Wandy Rodriguez (10, 35) 91 L
35. Clayton Kershaw (7, 26) 89 L
Joe Saunders (10, 33) 89 L
37. Scott Kazmir (10, 30) 88 L
38. Ramon Ortiz (12, 41) 87 R
39. Yovani Gallardo (8, 28) 86 R
40. Joe Blanton (10, 33) 85 R
Ubaldo Jimenez (9, 30) 85 R
Max Scherzer (7, 29) 85 R
43. R.A. Dickey (12, 39) 83 R
Edwin Jackson (12, 30) 83 R
45. Bruce Chen (16, 37) 82 L
David Price (7, 28) 82 L
47. Chad Billingsley (8, 29) 81 R
Jorge De La Rosa (11, 33) 81 L
C.J. Wilson (10, 33) 81 L
50. Jose Contreras (11, 42) 78 R
In the modern game the only way a pitcher is going to get 300 wins is by starting his career early, not getting hurt, and being consistently good, with a great peak. Maddux and Glavine did that - and they had probably one DL stint between them until their last couple seasons. Randy Johnson's path was a little bit different as he was a late bloomer. All that being said, I don't think it will ever happen again anytime soon.
It will be interesting see what numbers the latest generation of pitchers end up at. There's kind of a hole in quality between the guys that got started in the late 80's and those in the 90's - I don't think there's a pitcher that got his start between 1993 - 2002 that will make the HoF.
I think 250 wins or maybe even less than that is going to be the mark we look for.
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