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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Weekly is not putting a number on it especially because you went from weekly to 3 times per day so forgive me for calling you on that.
    No. I didn't. Your failure to comprehend that is baffling to me.

    If I say an event occurring weekly is too much, that's me saying that if something happens weekly (i.e. once per week), then that is far too common for my taste.

    I then made a point that currently about 3 folks are dying per day at the hands of our police force.

    You somehow aren't able to comprehend the two separate points.
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    Using sturg's and goldies' logic I should be scared to death of black people because 450-500 white people are murdered by blacks every year and none of those can be justified. Do you know why I'm not? Because it's not statistically significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Using sturg's and goldies' logic I should be scared to death of black people because 450-500 white people are murdered by blacks every year and none of those can be justified. Do you know why I'm not? Because it's not statistically significant.
    If you can find the post I said where you should be scared to death of police officers, you let me know.

    Also (unrelated) - I wonder if you have a similar viewpoint on terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    If you can find the post I said where you should be scared to death of police officers, you let me know.

    Also (unrelated) - I wonder if you have a similar viewpoint on terrorism.
    No, you didn't say it but you're always implying that the police are out of control. If they are out of control we should be scared. Terrorism isn't the same because it's only low because of our diligent policies towards it. If libertarians such as yourself had your way terrorism would be rampant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    No. I didn't. Your failure to comprehend that is baffling to me.

    If I say an event occurring weekly is too much, that's me saying that if something happens weekly (i.e. once per week), then that is far too common for my taste.

    I then made a point that currently about 3 folks are dying per day at the hands of our police force.

    You somehow aren't able to comprehend the two separate points.
    1 incidence per week should absolutely not be considered "common" when you consider how many (A) officers exist in this country (B) How many calls said officers respond to (C) How many of those calls are life threatening situations to the officers.


    I suppose some on this board think a cops job is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    1 incidence per week should absolutely not be considered "common" when you consider how many (A) officers exist in this country (B) How many calls said officers respond to (C) How many of those calls are life threatening situations to the officers.


    I suppose some on this board think a cops job is easy.
    Then we disagree on what common is. I hold our police to high standards.

    3 people per day...

    And you're freaking out over a few folks in the middle east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Then we disagree on what common is. I hold our police to high standards.

    3 people per day...

    And you're freaking out over a few folks in the middle east.
    Let you libertarians have your way and you'll find out just how dangerous terrorism really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    No, you didn't say it but you're always implying that the police are out of control. If they are out of control we should be scared. Terrorism isn't the same because it's only low because of our diligent policies towards it. If libertarians such as yourself had your way terrorism would be rampant.
    Depending on the circumstances, some people probably should be:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Let you libertarians have your way and you'll find out just how dangerous terrorism really is.
    Weren't you just carrying on about statistical probability?

    You're 8 times more likely to die from a police officer than a terrorist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Weren't you just carrying on about statistical probability?

    You're 8 times more likely to die from a police officer than a terrorist.
    Well, that is extremely misleading. You can't take a number of incidents and project it to teh whole population. Most of us would never put ourselves in a position to get killed by a police officer so you need to understand how to use numbers for arguments. I can absolutely guarantee that a police officer will never kill be because of excessive force. Terrorists however target everyone equally.
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    Im certainly not 8x more likely to die bc I am not dumb enough to give a cop any reason to ever consider shooting me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Im certainly not 8x more likely to die bc I am not dumb enough to give a cop any reason to ever consider shooting me.
    What a concept!

    Don't do stupid **** and the cops won't bother you. Is this how its supposed to be? Sounds too easy GF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Weren't you just carrying on about statistical probability?

    You're 8 times more likely to die from a police officer than a terrorist.
    You're missing the point I just made. Let the libertarian's foreign policies take root and you'll see how high terrorist killings would get in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What a concept!

    Don't do stupid **** and the cops won't bother you. Is this how its supposed to be? Sounds too easy GF.
    Quit using common sense like that. You know how the other side hates that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Im certainly not 8x more likely to die bc I am not dumb enough to give a cop any reason to ever consider shooting me.
    I sure hope you never run into a cop like this:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5879694.html

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    For those too lazy to click on the link - skip to the 40 second mark:


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    I'm sure things like this happen all the time where I should be worried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What a concept!

    Don't do stupid **** and the cops won't bother you. Is this how its supposed to be? Sounds too easy GF.
    The video above (Boston) - the folks committed the crime of being in their house. They had guns put in their face.

    The video above (the gas station) - the guy committed the crime of obeying what the cop asked him to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    The video above (Boston) - the folks committed the crime of being in their house. They had guns put in their face.

    The video above (the gas station) - the guy committed the crime of obeying what the cop asked him to do.
    Isolated incidents aren't reality. However, I agree the cops were wrong on both cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Isolated incidents aren't reality. However, I agree the cops were wrong on both cases.
    But I was just told that if you don't do anything wrong, you'll never be in danger.

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