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    Boston writer advocating acquiring Jason Heyward in the off season


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    Let's start with Betts and Owens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MURF21 View Post
    Let's start with Betts and Owens.
    Sold!

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    Fenway's RF is tricky, but Heyward's plus defense wouldn't be fully realized in that park.

    It would take a boatload for me to trade Heyward. It would start with prospects in the tier of Betts and Owens, but it would take at least two more guys, one of which would have to be a major leaguer. Red Sox have some interesting prospects, but I don't think one can turn their back on Heyward's still likely upside.

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    Anyone that trades Heyward for anyone not named Trout should be taken out back and given the ole one two

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    I think you have to resign either Heyward or J-Up this offseason and trade the other one. I think it's pretty clear we aren't going to resign both. So offer them both similar contracts this winter in the $90+ million range. Whichever one doesn't take it is the one you try to trade this off-season.

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    I dont think people will flock to the new stadium to see Mookie Betts play with BJ.

    Betcha they keep both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I think you have to resign either Heyward or J-Up this offseason and trade the other one. I think it's pretty clear we aren't going to resign both. So offer them both similar contracts this winter in the $90+ million range. Whichever one doesn't take it is the one you try to trade this off-season.
    So we trade one of our 3 best players when in playoff contention? Same thing as when people were all about trading Kimbrel cause we weren't gonna be able to do it, bottom line we want to win we don't make that trade. If we're stinking midseason we trade one of them. We may never get a chance to win again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Anyone that trades Heyward for anyone not named Trout should be taken out back and given the ole one two
    This.

    This ×1000.
    Heyward will be an MVP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Anyone that trades Heyward for anyone not named Trout should be taken out back and given the ole one two
    And if the alternative is watching Heywood walk for a draft pick? Would you say the Rangers were stupid for trading Tex?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    And if the alternative is watching Heywood walk for a draft pick? Would you say the Rangers were stupid for trading Tex?
    Not comparable. Rangers were a losing team. Cards didn't trade Pujols despite a real good chance of losing him, Brewers didn't trade Fielder, and so on so forth. Rays are only team I can think of who've been winning and traded off key parts. If someone pulls a Shields offer for Jason or Justin then yeah you consider that. But Mookie Betts isn't the centerpiece of any jason trade I like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    And if the alternative is watching Heywood walk for a draft pick? Would you say the Rangers were stupid for trading Tex?
    We could of let Tex walk for a draft pick that could of been Mike Trout. Instead we traded him for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Anyone that trades Heyward for anyone not named Trout should be taken out back and given the ole one two
    What planet do you live on that you're talking about Heyward and Trout in the same sentence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by emk418 View Post
    What planet do you live on that you're talking about Heyward and Trout in the same sentence?
    Clearly, the one where we have Heyward and want Trout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvsportscaster View Post
    So he thinks two players and two prospects will get 'er done.
    Henry Owens, check
    Mookie Betts, check
    Will Middlebrooks?
    Rubby de la Rosa

    Heck, do it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    So he thinks two players and two prospects will get 'er done.
    Henry Owens, check
    Mookie Betts, check
    Will Middlebrooks?
    Rubby de la Rosa

    Heck, do it now.
    That's too much for just Heyward. We would have to include our center fielder as well.

    If the Sox want Black Jesus, they have to take Bad Upton as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    That's not what happens with those stats. Even if you explain it in the simplest fashion.
    Are you sure you even know how defensive stars are calculated? I feel like I'm talking to a 5 yr old here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Are you sure you even know how defensive stars are calculated? I feel like I'm talking to a 5 yr old here.
    Yes I do, way mroe than you do apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Yes I do, way mroe than you do apparently.
    Again no support at all at your argument. Just another childish response equivalent to "Nun-uh!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Again no support at all at your argument. Just another childish response equivalent to "Nun-uh!"
    Why do I have to support my evidence? You don't know what's being tracked if you think a fielders reputation comes in as a factor. Not to mention you use one quantitative stat and then put down another. Stupid to do that.
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