bravesnumberone (09-15-2014), Garmel (09-15-2014)
It infuriates me that Fredi started jerking Stella! around and blamed it on the league figuring him out when he didn't respond well to very little playing time, no confidence from his manager, etc etc. The kid didn't start slumping before all the bull****. He just suddenly lost his job.
Anybody can see that Fredi has lost this team. They know he is an idiot and have showed it this year and really any pressure situation in his tenure .I mean he is about as bad as you can be. I mean just listen to one interview of his and you will be like who is this moron?
Braves1976 (09-15-2014), jason27nc (09-16-2014)
Dalyn (09-15-2014)
Anybody notice when BJ tried to take third and was thrown out... he basically begged Fredi to come out and challenge and Fredi chose not to?
The replay showed BJ was right
Yes, I noticed that and found it odd to say the least: Bossman, not walking toward the dugout, almost loitering, casting hopeful eyes toward the bench; meanwhile, Fredi, instead of going out to chat up the umpire while Tosca makes the call to the replay eyes, is standing at the steps, looking back toward Tosca on the phone. They left poor BJ out in the rain to trudge back on his own.
"Managers have gone out for worse, why leave him out there," was my first impression.
Last edited by TomahawkCult; 09-16-2014 at 09:15 AM.
Honestly, I don't care if Fredi didn't come out for that one. I'm done with BJ. Don't have any use for him. Don't want his sorry ass on the team. If you can't bust it out of the batter's box when you're the final out of the game, you don't deserve to put on a uniform. So f*** him.
NinersSBChamps (09-16-2014)
Sure. But BJ has been a pathetic piece of crap for two years when other guys were still busting it. I don't think Fredi was right at all, and it only adds to the long list of reasons he needs to get canned like tuna in a couple weeks.
But, if anything, play for your teammates, damnit.
Dalyn (09-16-2014)
If I'm Justin Upton (or any player), I look at how Fredi left BJ out to dry out there and would be pissed.
I actually felt bad for BJ. He looked so helpless out there and Fredi just left him out to soak in the rain.
Dalyn (09-16-2014), gtcway (09-16-2014), TomahawkCult (09-16-2014), UNCBlue012 (09-16-2014)
DOB and Bowman aren't going to write about it, but I'm pretty sure most of those guys don't want to play for Fredi.
I'm surprised he came out there to argue when Freeman got tossed.
There's two sides to it. If you're BJ, you shouldn't expect to be defended when you say stuff like "Then the motha****a gonna make warm up twice," or whatever, to another team's player. At the same time, if you're a manager of a team, that's part of your job to defend your players. Unless he goes all Papelblown.
Dalyn (09-16-2014)
IMO it doesn't have anything to do with being good or bad. If he's in the lineup, then he shouldn't be left to twist in the wind like that.
It may have been a simple breakdown in communication (BJ's immediate body language seemed to suggest he thought he was out, I don't recall Dascenzo indicating anything to the bench, and Fredi + bench staff made an effort to pat BJ on the backside as he entered the dugout), but it was a strange passage of play.
Last edited by TomahawkCult; 09-16-2014 at 01:33 PM.
Garmel (09-16-2014)
That was after the game last night."I've never really heard [Gonzalez] in the game like that," Freeman said. "He was rooting for the players. It was kind of cool to see. It's nice to see he has our back. Even though he's not managing the game up in the dugout, he's still fighting for everybody."